Helenius Not As Good As We Thought? Or Chisora Better?

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  1. REEVO

    REEVO Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I thought it was a great fight and i liked what i saw with Chisora, he definately has redeemed himself for that terrible performane against Fury....
    Chisora as well is a Gee.. :yep
     
  2. Blake Rayne

    Blake Rayne Fat Cuban Aficianado Full Member

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    Chisora scores -1 million G points for constantly wanting to have sex with the men he fights. He is as close as any man who has come before him to the anti G that is spoken of in Revelations.
     
  3. TitoMahawk

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    MIssing one poll option: BOTH
     
  4. JMP

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    I didn't hold Helenius in high regard before the fight. He's terribly limited and basic. I didn't realize Chisora was as good as what he showed though. He did heavyweight boxing proud and displayed decent skills, resiliency, and conditioning.
     
  5. pirao666

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    Excuses.
     
  6. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

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    I think it's a mix of both. Chisora is clearly a better fighter than the fat tub of larb we saw lose to Fury. And Helenius clearly isn't this sharp, dangerous and highly talented contender we thought.

    Helenius has a terrible work-rate, can't use his height and reach, has questionable stamina and has zero jab. He relies on his uppercut and left hook KO qualities too much and simply forgets to box and win rounds.

    First thing Helenius has to do is start a nutrition program and increase his lean body mass. Obviously his diet is **** and that hurts his stamina. Then he has to work on his foot-work and start boxing more from the outside. He is so dumb to simply give away his height advantage like that.
     
  7. Alf_p

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    Totally agree. He didn't fight like a tall guy, and I don't think I have ever seen a boxer use a height advantage as poorly as Helenius. Del Boy could just walk up to him and fight him on close distance.

    I hope for Helenius, that he really had problems with his arm during the fight. Otherwise, his future in boxing looks bleak.
     
  8. CamR21

    CamR21 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Both!! Helenius is crap, Chisora is a lot better
     
  9. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Bit of both I think.
    I thought Helenius would beat Chisora, but when they fought I clearly scored for Chisora. I felt Derek should have been given the decision.
    I still think Helenius can go to the top, but he has been exposed a bit.
    Chisora can also move on as well if not left stagnant
     
  10. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

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    Let's also not forget that Chisora is BRITISH and SLICK. Two intangibles that Helenius is seriously lacking.
     
  11. The Kurgan

    The Kurgan Boxing Junkie banned

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    I voted that Helenius is not as good, because I already knew that Chisora was a good fighter if he committed fully to a fight.
     
  12. Blake Rayne

    Blake Rayne Fat Cuban Aficianado Full Member

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    and Black. It is the Axis of Awesomeness.
     
  13. chico g

    chico g Let's watch some Sesame Street...lmao Full Member

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    Helenius has always been a bit one dimensional, is very durable and always looks for the knockout without throwing many jabs. I expected him to get exposed sooner or later, but by another tall super heavy. All credit to Chisora, he's a good fighter for his size, but he'll have problems fighting someone bigger with a higher work rate. ( I still think he gets beaten by Fury)
     
  14. smegmaa

    smegmaa Undefeated Champ Full Member

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    very impressed with chisora, thought he was a fat no heart guy, but great head movement, rolling of the jab and sharp hooks
     
  15. The Mongoose

    The Mongoose I honor my bets banned

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    I wasn't impressed with Helenius in the Sergei fight lol Entertaining but Helenius has no jab and was letting Sergei walk in and pound his body.

    Helenius is raw and doesn't use his size, hard head and punch though. Reminds me of Bowe.

    At any rate, he's always entertaining. Chisora is ok, we all knew this, really. The only people calling him a total bum were Wlad haters even if he had no business fighting for the title.