higher all-time p4p roy jones or marvin hagler

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  1. Iron Mick Titan

    Iron Mick Titan I thought we was havinfun Full Member

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    no way:patsch
     
    Iron Mick Titan, Feb 28, 2008
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  2. Iron Mick Titan

    Iron Mick Titan I thought we was havinfun Full Member

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    wow 17-17 tie keep the votes rolling
     
    Iron Mick Titan, Feb 28, 2008
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  3. SugarShane_24

    SugarShane_24 ESB good-looking member Full Member

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    My vote goes to Hagler.

    He has dominated a weightclass packed with a lot of quality fighters.


    Jones won more titles, yes. But lacks a lot of meaningful fights that will warrant him serious consideration to be ranked higher on the P4P ATG list.


    I place Jones just within the top 40.
     
    SugarShane_24, Feb 28, 2008
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  4. istmeno

    istmeno Well-Known Member Full Member

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    with jones, the argument is that he WOULD have beaten those considered the best fighters in the weight classes that he fought. had they fought.

    with hagler, he DID beat the best fighters in his weightclass, and left no stones unturned as to his dominance of his division during is reign.

    so it depends on your criteria, is perception and opinion greater than reaity.
     
    istmeno, Feb 28, 2008
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  5. HopkinsFan

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    Great poll, i choose Jones slightly over Hagler. Hagler has the better resume but p4p in their prime Jones is better and has a handful of impressive names defeated.
     
    HopkinsFan, Feb 28, 2008
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  6. janeschicken

    janeschicken hard work! deadicayshin! Full Member

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    I'm as big of an RJJ as they come, but no way can Roy be put ahead of Hagler. Hagler's resume is unbelievable.

    Wait, I misread the title. If we're talking p4p and not quality of opposition, then Roy for sure.
     
    janeschicken, Feb 28, 2008
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    :good
     
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  8. Sweet Pea

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    Hagler based on resume. I have Hagler at about #20, Jones at about #28. Based on skill and dominance, it would have to be Jones, but Hagler never had a down point in his career and beat the best constantly. I think Jones could've(could) beaten him, but I base the majority of my rankings on resume/accomplishments.
     
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  9. MacManJr.

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    RJ for me.
     
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  10. RICH

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    Roy.
     
    RICH, Feb 28, 2008
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  11. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You're a bit off....Jones also faced McCallium, not only an HoF but an ATG, and he faced Hill, who is not an ATG but easily in the HoF. So there are 5 HoF on his resume.
     
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  12. Moses77

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    Hagler was tougher, Jones more skilled. Hagler beat better opponents though, so I've gone with him.
     
    Moses77, Feb 28, 2008
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  13. randeris

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    Roy Jones - maybe not resumewise, but still he was the most superior fighter i've ever seenn. (There might have been others, i just can't recall)
     
    randeris, Feb 28, 2008
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  14. Fedor Em

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    I have Roy at #24 and Hagler at #25 so there you have it.
     
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  15. kg0208

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    I rate Hagler higher as an ATG, because I think resume wise and accomplishment wise, he is just a bit higher than Jones. I think he beat a slightly higher level of competition, and I place alot of emphasis on dominating a weight class. He also was a lineal champion.

    P4P I rate Jones higher. Here I put more emphasis on H2H regardless of weight, along with accomplishments and resume.
     
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