Higher ring IQ Crawford or Mayweather

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Joeywill, Dec 14, 2023.


Higher ring IQ

Poll closed Dec 21, 2023.

  1. Floyd Mayweather Jr

    53 vote(s)
    81.5%

  2. Terence Crawford

    12 vote(s)
    18.5%
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  1. Joeywill

    Joeywill Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I understand but that Spence was coming off arguably his best performance of his career vs Ugas. Hard to know how much of that Crawford win was Crawfords greatness vs Spence not being the same.
     
    Joeywill, Dec 17, 2023
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  2. Joeywill

    Joeywill Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I have to rewatch it but I dont remember thinking it was that close
     
    Joeywill, Dec 17, 2023
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  3. bjl12

    bjl12 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You cant convince haters. Theyre like Trumpers...will call a square a circle regardless of any and all evidence.

    Dont waste your time w this kiddo
     
    bjl12, Dec 17, 2023
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  4. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It was about 7-5 for Whitaker but it was one of them competitive fights where there was no controversy.

    The only gift decision Whitaker got in his career was the 1st Rivera fight in which he easily could've lost.
     
    Dynamicpuncher, Dec 17, 2023
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  5. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    My opinion wrong ? No the problem is your talking about a subject which you don't have alot of knowledge on.

    Castillo had 1st vs Casamayor in which he won I'm not sure what you're going on about.

    Old af Corrales ? They had an immediate rematch.....

    Please stop talking about Castillo you have no clue what you're talking about hes a top 25-30 Lightweight of all time and is a lower tier HOF.

    Castillo went 1-1 with Diego Corales

    1-0 vs Joel Casamayor

    1-0-1 vs Stevie Johnston

    So not really sure what your going on about regarding metric but he was 3-1-1 against top elite Lightweights, and 0-2 against an ATG in Mayweather in which many people think should be 1-1.
     
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  6. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    What's Postol's best win ? Everytime hes stepped up hes lost. Frigging Mean Machine better than Castillo ? Have a word with yourself has he even beat a top 10 ranked fighter ?

    And what's this P4P nonsense ? Gamboa's best weight was Featherweight, he had no business at Lightweight and would lose to Castillo handily at Lightweight.

    Castillo beat Stevie Johnston, Joel Casamayor = only 1 fight which you keep getting wrong, Diego Corrales. These 3 wins absolutely obliterate any of the others top wins.
     
    Dynamicpuncher, Dec 17, 2023
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  7. Serge

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    Yes, Floyd was a cherrypicker who ducked a prime Manny like he had Ebola and wouldn't go anywhere near him until he saw him get flatlined out cold on his face for 10 minutes

    Yes, he was the only guy out of the 50 + guys Manny fought who was too chicken to fight him without ''testing'' (FLO-SADA testing at that) even though Manny never got caught using illegal IVs, with extremely suspicious testosterone ratios, has a ''surrogate father'' who owns 20 or so TRT clinics etc. etc.

    Yes, he refused to do VADA when Manny said let's do both - VADA and FLOSADA

    Yes, he clearly lost the first fight to JLC and many feel he lost to crude caveman Maidana after refusing to allow him to wear a perfectly legal pair of puncher's gloves which would've increased Maidana's power, gloves that C level Devon Alexander schooled a Maidana who was wearing them

    Yes, he went life and death against an extremely inactive past prime semi-retired Oscar who had only fought once in almost three years (just six rounds), not at all in a year, and many feel was 1-3 in his last 4 fights going in

    Yes, he would 100% have lost to a prime Oscar

    Yes, he fought a ton of plodders and struggled against slickness, both in fights and in the gym, on the extremely rare occasions he came up against it

    Yes, he was very rarely at a reach disadvantage, let alone ever at a large or huge one

    Yes, he never fought outside his homeland

    Yes he had a terrible influence on the sport and ruined it in many ways

    And yes he was a way worse person than Crawford is or ever will be and he has a way worse fanbase than Crawford has or ever will have

    I mean I can keep going on but despite all of aforementioned fact is he simply fought a much higher level of competition than Crawford has, and unlike Crawford who was often the bigger man and very rarely the smaller one, he was fighting guys his size, bigger or much bigger
     
    Serge, Dec 17, 2023
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  8. BoxingIQ

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    Look at the speed of his jab. Compare his balance and jab from.his recent fights to the one against Crawford. Although he has lost a step since the accident, I think weight and being out for two years played a role. Not saying Crawford still wouldn't have won
     
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    https://youtube.com/shorts/FFHHFIanwKQ?si=5Sx95VR08nl1PWtU
    Look at the speed of his jab. Compare his balance and jab from.his recent fights to the one against Crawford. Although he has lost a step since the accident, I think weight and being out for two years played a role. Not saying Crawford still wouldn't have won
     
    BoxingIQ, Dec 17, 2023
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  10. BoxingIQ

    BoxingIQ Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He did not lose to Madiabna or Castillo,go back and watch the fight
     
    BoxingIQ, Dec 17, 2023
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  11. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    I don't need to I've already seen them.

    He lost the first fight to JLC and he arguably lost to crude caveman Maidana and one thing's for damn certain he sure as hell would've lost both if he was man enough to fight either in their backyards
     
    Serge, Dec 17, 2023
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