Historically, why doesn't Rocky Marciano get his just dues?

I think outbox, outbrawl would be rather irrelevant. He'd outman them.

They are slobs with little character or heart.

 

Like **** they would Rocky would make them wish they never stepped foot in a ring.

 

If Peter cant ko former middleweight champion James Toney, than I really have a hard time seeing Peter do that feat vs Marciano.

 

Most likely the introduction of television which resulted in closing of dozens of fight venues in the USA took a bigger toll on the ranks of professional boxers than any massacre.

 

I don't give a damn how he'd fare against today's guys. To me it's irrelevant.

He was an overachiever in many ways...he used every ounce of his potential, and then some.
I'm glad he's rated highly here. Deserves to be.

 

When you learn a little more about the sport your opinion will change. Why did you not answer JT's question...back up your strong statement about Langford with facts or are you just smoke and mirrors as usual....no meat and potatoes...

As far as my opinion about Marciano, it took me many years to form it and I will stick to it. My personal experience of talking to some of the best minds in boxing throughout the years, like Ray Arcel and great trainer Freddie Brown,Flash Gordon,Gil Clancy,trainer Chino Govin, Matchmaker Teddy Brenner,Nat Fleischer, Lou Duva, Al Certo, and many great fighters from Willie Pep to Ali and Frazier and even your precious Holmes and many others helped form my opinion of Marciano Ali and Louis...I feel Marciano,Louis and Ali were the cream of the last 100 years and would give each other a loss and a tough war. Thats my opinion that I am entitled to and I don't really care if you have a different one but a nuthugger is what you are so look in the mirror and repeat those words about yourself...Youngster.

 

Which is why over a generation later the US had the greatest school of heavyweight talent it had ever seen?

From the late 70's to early 90's, the US produced Holmes, Cooney, Tubbs, Page, Tucker, Tyson, Smith, Thomas, Dokes, Holyfield, Bowe, Moorer... Talent-wise, a great bunch.

 

Two or three of those might have been great. ... but you've included a few dodgy names in there too.

Not sure the greatest American generation of heavyweights existed during the 70s and 80s. I think that's a very contentious statement.

I'm more interested in how the WW2 massacre destroyed the HW division. Do you know that for sure ?
Maybe the army brought a lot of men in to boxing than potential contenders it killed off ? .... Marciano, for example !

The people in the boxing game at the time, early 50s, blamed television for causing a drought in developing talent. They weren't necessarily right but it seems reasonable - fight clubs closed down, followed by gyms.
Also, obviously a post-war boom in living conditions and opportunities altered the landscape too. Less desperate men turning to pro boxing. In the US of America at least.