Holy crap Mijares is overrated

not sure. probably at least double your money on Vic

 

Very well said :good

 

Exactly.

Al Beristein made a point as early as round 1, before Vic Darchinyana even landed anything.

"Tactically Crisitan Mijares isn't fighting as well as he might. He's not throwing jabs. Kind of lunging in and leaning in. Not fighting as tall as he might."

This is why it's hard for me to believe Crisitian Mijares is overrated to the extent people are saying. Crisitian didn't fight like he had even early on, before the knockdown or anything landed. I previously felt it all went pairshaped because of the uppercut. After watching it again, Mijares wasn't doing anything right from the very start.

 

Well, if he was fighting the wrong fight from the beginning and continued that for 9 rounds, then I have to question his ring intelligence and ability to adapt. Those are important aspects in being a great fighter.

 

I think the biggest question over Cristian Mijares is not his boxing ability, but exactly that. Can Mijares adapt to different styles? Vic was a much different style to what he had fought previously, and he couldn't get out of the way of the left of Vic and was eventually knocked out.

 

Thanks dude. I actually dont have enough fingers to count how fighters are overlooked. I dont see my boy Molitor getting any respect:-( this guy is so technically proficient you can call him baby JMM.

Again when you see this guy box, you know theres something there, theres an intangible. I tell you something, if he faces the top of 122, lets say a Vasquez, he wont be punked.

 

I'm not sure either, I think I saw a post where someone said it was 4 to 1, but I don't remember for sure.

 

Yeah, and if you remember the pre-fight analysis by Showtime, they showed vids of Mijares in action, saying his biggest weapons were the jab, the counter punching and the fact he "fights tall".
We didn't see ANY of that in the Vic fight.

Totally agree on that. He has a long way ahead of him if he wants to prove he's really great and people bashing him is unfair.
But watching that fight, it's his "champion" mentality I question the most rather than his ring smarts. If he can't manage to adapt mentally in fights like that where things don't go his way, then surely he's far from what some presented him to be. But I'd like to watch him in the future to see how he comes back. I insist, a rematch with Vic would be very interesting imo.

 

This is what is so puzzling....he didn't do anything that justified his hype. Not even remotely. I can't seem to figure it out myself.....Vic is awkward, but I 've always thought that there was a hitch in his delivery, that would cue a supposedly superior tactician like Mijares to take advantage. I think this is where the "overrated" tag comes...MIjares didn't remotely do anything to take advantage. Was Vic really that vastly improved? I still saw him lunging and cocking his left (the cue) before he throws. Why couldn't Mijares time him the way Donaire did?.....Just a thoroughly disappointing performance by a then consensus P4per. But on the other hand, you still have to give Mijares the benefit of the doubt. He was on a 26 fight win streak. Lets see how he does in his next fight, before conclusively saying he is overrated.

 

Great post.

You make a great point on Vic Darchinyan's performance. Credit to him for getting the knockout, but I don't think he showed any improvements whatsoever. He was telegraphing his left hook, but Crisitian Mijares in stead of ducking, slipping, and taking a step back from them, lunged in to the punches. Mijares had not done this in previous fights, and if anything, he should have been able to do it easier against Vic. I am puzzled by what happened on Saturday night, and like Carles, I would be interesting in seeing the result of a rematch. Mijares didn't fight like himself.

 

He's banned.

 

Amsterdam got thoroughly embarassed after Saturday evening's result. I hope Amsterdam doesn't turn his back on Mijares but instead comes out, admits he was wrong, and then everybody can look forward to Jones Jr vs Calzaghe.

 

Actually, he DID improve.

Vic showed great speed, PLUS his punches weren't that looping and wide like in other fights. They were shorter, more calculated punches, including powerful uppercuts, which is what frustrated Mijares the most.

Do you remember the wide, almost windmill-like punch Darchinyan attempted at Donaire, when Donaire caught him with that vicious left hook? In the Mijares fight, Vic didn't attempt that kind of punches.

 

How can he come back when he's banned from ESB? :think

Truth is, even if there was a way to come back, Amsterdam hyped Mijares way too much to just hang around after what Vic did to him.

 

You're correct. Vic did show improved handspeed, and he did box a lot more than he had against Donaire.

However, a lot of Darchinyan's shots were still telegraphed and wide. I'd even say a few times Vic did throw a windmill like shot at times, because he got over excited after landing flush on Mijares. He did this a few times, and it went unpunished from Mijares, who is usually very quick to counter.

With even the improvements in hand speed and ring smarts, Crisitian Mijares has shown the ability before to suggest those looping shots - those telegraphed punches - should not have landed as often as they did. I was more disappointed with Mijares performance rather than impressed with Vic's.