Holyfield-Botha ROUND by ROUND...

I think Holyfield has a better chance of beating a Klit than Arreola or Eddie Chambers.

 

He definitely would have a much better chance against Haye, however. Even in his prime he struggled much more mightily with the big men.

I absolutely love Evander Holyfield, and it pains me to see him fighting at this level and at this age. But here is a fact: He's not going to retire until he gets practically killed in the ring. For that reason, I'm going to keep rooting for him as hard as ever. If he's going to fight anyway, he might as well win.

And he absolutely did beat Valuev. That was robbery of the highest order, and had he won that fight he would most certainly have fought a Klitschko or other top contender by now, simply because they would've seen an easy shot at a unification. It's too bad, because he would have probably been more likely to survive a contest with one of them two years ago.

But really, who can he beat? I thought he might have a chance against Sultan, but that wasn't to be. I guess he has to go after Haye? We all know Haye would make and take the fight, and then trumpet that he be beat the "legendary Evander Holyfield," failing to mention that he is 47.

Maybe someone can come up with a seniors/legends boxing federation so these old men only end up fighting each other. That might actually be fun to watch, in the same way that Masters Soccer matches or old timers baseball games are. Maybe even let them box with head gear?

 

Holyfield looked really bad in the first 5 rounds, very sad.
But his experience and conditioning came through and he started to find his mark.
He's seriously looking his age, but maybe if he fights every 2 or 3 months he can get sharper.

The stoppage was a bit premature, but with Botha's condition and Holyfield's determination and strength the tide was only turning one way. Botha had lost interest and he didn't protest the stoppage.

 

Oh God two corpses going at it. Where would the fight take place? In a cemetary:rofl?

 

Yes, the first 5 rounds I was thinking "Holyfield is showing his age". But in 6,7,8 Holyfield really turned it on.

Does he have a chance against either Klitschko - Absolutely NO WAY.
Haye: Most likely NO, but he could land a lucky punch.

 

I didn't see the fight, but even though he is getting on in years, you can't discount Holyfield that easily.

His reflexes aren't going to be what they used to be, but you can bet he is a lot more skilled and has a ton more experience than either Kiltschko has faced probably since Lewis.

 

Golota was stopped in his last fight, if I'm not mistaken. I think his comeback has been derailed, if that post was anything more than a joke.

I pray they don't make a fight with either of the Klitschkos. Holyfield is still tough, hard headed (literally) and huge hearted.

What happens when you put a guy like that, at the age of 47, in the ring with a big man who buys his power by the truck load? Permanent brain damage.

 

I thought about that fight. Evander could win that fight if he is not hit with the left hook. Hard to tell who would win that one. That is probably the only guy from his era that Evander has not fought.

 

He''s got Tua, Golota, and McCall left. Other than that I can't think of anybody else left

 

Once Botha looked gassed at the start of the 6th and Evander started putting combinations together, you knew it was just a matter of time before Botha got nailed with someting big.

Next to Zakman, I'm Holyfield's biggest fan on this board. I love Evander Holyfield......but I'll be very honest........If Botha would have come in fighting shape ready to go 12, he likely would have decisioned Holyfield tonight.

Its been said that Holyfields left rotator cuff has healed and he does'nt have any problems with it.......but based on tonight, I think its still hurting.
Holyfield is pawing with the jab and never snaps the jab like he used to do it.
Even old fighters can snap off good jabs, but Holyfield it seems is unable to extend his arm fully to snap a good one off.
Had he done that vs Botha, Holyfield would have made things alot easier for himself.

I was looking at the way Holyfield now throws his left hook, and he cant **** his left hand all the way back and let the shot wing anylonger........he has to tilt his body to the left some and then ride his momentum to thrown the left .
Holyfield's power hand has always been the left hook, but the shot that dropped Botha was the right hand......Holyfield just cant muster the snap with his left hook, and I'm just about certain his shoulder is still bothering him.

Dear God dont let one of these vultures called promoters get Holyfield a title shot with a legit power punching Heavyweight.
At 47 years of age, Holyfield does'nt belong in the ring against a legit Heavyweight Champion at this point.

Holyfield probably needs the money at this point.......keep fighting old-timers.......Tyson, Bowe, even Golata........but nothing above that.

 

Experience is great, but there's a limit to what it can do for you, especially when you are closing in on 50-years of age.

Holyfield is just too stationary, and does not get his punches off fast enough. Wladimir could probably end the fight throwing nothing but jabs. That's my impression from what I saw tonight.

 

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:good My thoughts exactly.


Holy needs 1 last big fight before retirement... I've heard some good opinions thrown up on this topic, but if it was a definate Final fight for evander, then i'd be keen to see him against TUA or McCall. heck somebody shoul convince good old Riddick Bowe to come back for 1 last slugfest,



Bowe Vs Holyfield 4 anyone??? :yep

 

I hear what you are saying, but in the end, Holyfield is a grown man and he should be able to do what he likes.

Suggesting he only fight in a 'seniors' tournament is a bit patronising to all 40 something people. fact is. despite his age, Holyfield could probably wupp 99% of all heavyweights in the world - he's no chump.

If he wants to give it a go, he can do what he likes. He shouldn't and doesn't need a 'young' person to give him permission.