Holyfield vs. Frazier

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Holyfield vs. Frazier

  1. Holyfield via TKO/KO

    3 vote(s)
    7.3%
  2. Holyfield via decision wide decision

    1 vote(s)
    2.4%
  3. Holyfield via close decision 1-3 points

    8 vote(s)
    19.5%
  4. Frazier via TKO/KO

    6 vote(s)
    14.6%
  5. Frazier via wide decision

    2 vote(s)
    4.9%
  6. Frazier via close decision 1-3 points

    18 vote(s)
    43.9%
  7. Frazier vis split decision

    3 vote(s)
    7.3%
  8. Draw

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  1. Toney F*** U

    Toney F*** U Boxing junkie Full Member

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    Bonavena almost beat him
     
  2. Toney F*** U

    Toney F*** U Boxing junkie Full Member

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    Did you see the rematch
     
  3. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yeah, Qawi's time as a contender was done. Sort of like Walcott's rematch with Marciano, take the money and go.
     
  4. Toney F*** U

    Toney F*** U Boxing junkie Full Member

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    If Holyfield comes in with a good game plan he could definitely beat Frazier, he had all the physical tools to capitalize on Frazier’s weaknesses
     
  5. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Don't forget Lyle and Shavers.
     
  6. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He didn't and Frazier beat him in rematch more convincingly.
     
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  7. Toney F*** U

    Toney F*** U Boxing junkie Full Member

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    True, I think Frazier is a great fighter but i think the division at the time is overrated, I’m sure Holyfield could beat Frazier and also beat all the fighters Frazier did
     
  8. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    Ellis was at his peak. He was the WBA champion and he faced Frazier in a unification bout. Jimmy Ellis had never been down as a heavyweight until he faced Joe Frazier.
     
  9. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    What does the Bert Cooper fight tell you about how a Frazier fight may play out?
     
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  10. Entaowed

    Entaowed Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    You must intend the irony of Frazier missing these huge punchers.
    Many think he was steered clear of these massive hitters.
    I am unsure how he would have done, good slugger vs. great swarmer.
     
  11. WAR01

    WAR01 In the 7.2% Full Member

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    Whose to say Evander or Fraizer didn't use roids there entire careers? better change that rule as it will only spike arguments.
     
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  12. WAR01

    WAR01 In the 7.2% Full Member

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    Bert according to Oliver was the hardest puncher he ever shared the ring with, which was a prime Tyson and Lennox Lewis.
     
  13. WAR01

    WAR01 In the 7.2% Full Member

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    He did beat him and Fraizer admitted it.
     
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  14. Entaowed

    Entaowed Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Nah we should debate this if people disagree.
    We have no anecdotal, suspicious physique change or other evidence Frazier ever used PEDs.
    We have a great deal of evidence that Holyfield did.
    He got big quickly, then while quite young also quickly balded & got heart problems.

    And read his Wikipedia entry re: steroids & HGH-he was caught up in 2 investigations & the evidence he used is overwhelming.

    But I am very open to the other post you made-Frazier admitted Oscar beat him?
    I read excerpts from his ghostwritten book-Frazier seemed to admit he needed to hold on to avoid a third knock down & thus lose that fight.

    But i never heard him say he lost the fight.
    Please hyperlink any evidence for that, thank you!
     
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  15. WAR01

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    Evanders used from day 1 more then likely like most athletes, what changed was he lifted weights as for Joe whose to say?
    no evidence against or for he could've used from day one without lifting weights roids won't do much plenty of DYEL looking athletes caught using.