Holyfield vs Marciano

Yes with 11 pro fights against a future hall of fame champion and wins... Now ad about 15 fights of experience and maybe 20 lbs of muscle and we have our fantasy match.

 

In his 12th fight, against a former WBC world title holder.

Meanwhile in Marciano's 12th fight we have,














wait for it.
























Da,,da,da,da,,,,,,,,da,da,da.

Gilley Ferron.

won 3 (KO 2) + lost 7 (KO 6) + drawn 0 = 10.

Have you ever considered getting another hero?

 

You constantly use Marciano's opposition against him, yet you never use jack dempsey's **** poor opposition against him?

 

So can I use the Jack Dempsey who got knocked out cold on his back by 37 year old Journeyman Fireman Flynn, or his embarrassing decision loss to a fat 3rd rater?

 

20lb of muscle or steroids? Come on, we all know holyfield juiced

 

Marciano was knocked down by
a 37 years old Walcott and a 39 years old Moore,and he was prime.



You used a novice Holyfield against Qawi.

You are the one totally in the wrong here, I merely pointed out your disingenuousness.
I say match them prime for prime and so does every sane poster on this forum who does not have a phobic hate agenda against Jack Dempsey,which your track record conclusively proves you have.
Now you can continue this childish campaign against me if you so wish but I tell you now, you are coming second.

 

McVea you have a prejudice hate against Rocky Marciano and other white fighters (with the one exception of your man crush jack dempsey). Admit it. You go out of your way to viciously attack Marciano, you hate the guy because he threatens your hero jack dempsey.



Holyfield had an EXTENSIVE amateur career, he was no novice.

 

Both who are in the hall of fame and are rated # 4 and # 63 on Ring Magazines top 100 punchers of all time list.

He wasn't knocked out, he didn't lose the fight, like Dempsey did against Fireman Flynn. Flynn knocked Dempsey out, Dempsey LOST the fight.

Flynn is not a hall of famer, he is not rated in the Ring Magazines top 100 punchers of all time list

 

We match opponents as they actually were ,not some hypothetical versions of them. Like wise we don't penalize fighters from the past who had cuts stopped by what are now illegal means ie Monsels Solution,cuts that would not have stopped bleeding with the 1000/1 solutions of Avitan and Adrenaline permitted today.




Let me know when you've absorbed enough punishment.:good

 

Ok so "natural" Marciano vs "illegal steroids" 215lb Holyfield. I gotcha.


Marciano-Simmons cut came from a headbutt and Marciano-Charles II cut came from a elbow. Under modern rules, those fights go to the scorecards for a technical decision.

Marciano was up big on Simmons and up 6 rounds to 1 on Ezzard Charles.

Under Modern Rules, Marciano beats both by technical decisions


What about Dempsey being knocked out of the ring by Firpo and saved by a typewriter? It that not a TKO 2 win for Firpo?

 

I would rather see the cruiser weight version of Holyfield fight Marciano to be honest.

That would really make for a high octane barn burner.

He might even have a better chance at that weight.

 

He was a novice pro stop with the spin.
No I have a prejudice against fan-boys who try and tell me what my own eyes can see is not true.
I've never had a hero, I hope I an too mature for that, if I ever had a boxing one it would be Muhammad Ali hands down! Marciano threatens nothing that I hold dear to me he is a 1950
boxer whose reign I lived through.
I remember how the people in my street hated him when he fouled "Our Don",which he undisputably did and many times, the legend grew up locally that ****ell would have won if he had not been fouled,it is nonsense, he would never have beaten Rocky whatever the circumstances.

So you see, I am objective you are not.

There is something unhealthily h*mo-erotic about your fixation with Rocco. But never ascribe the same tendencies to myself.

 

I keep telling you we judge each fighter in his own time. Marciano was cut badly in the Simmons fight and also the first Charles fight. You move the goal posts each time you come up against an inconvenient truth that contradicts your position.
Dempsey was knocked out of time .which is where the term knocked out originates from ,therefore your assertion in invalid.
You need to up your game considerably :-(

 

The testosterone is a bit thick in the air here!

 

At 66 ,I could do with any that is going spare!:good