Hopkins never beat an A-level fighter in his entire career at a fair weight

just to give everyone a good idea of the calibre of fighter joppy is, what would you say are joppys 5 best wins?

Wasn't there also a Trinidad handwrap controversy about this fight as well?

 

Tarvers a very good win, especially for the weight jump back to Hopkins natural weight.

tarver is nothing more than a hype-job though in one of the worst 175 divisions in boxing history. Tarver was also weight drained for that fight but I do give Hopkins credit for it.

 

I agree that was one of Hopkins better wins, though we must remember Johnson was unbeaten in an exceptionally weak 160 division and Johnson hadn't really tested himself before then.

Its worth remembering that soon after the Hopkins defeat, Johnson moved up to the tough 168 division where his true level of ability was exposed with something like a 6-9-0 record in the stacked division.

Johnson wisely them moved up to the exceptionally weak 175 division which was receiving excellent exposure on HBO due to the high number of domestic American match-ups in this division. This is where Johnson really forged a reputation for himself amongst the gullable American public who believed the hype that HBO were spoon feeding them.

 

Pound for pound in the Ring comic :rofl

What a truly embarrassing publication for its hype of American fighters

 

No beating the number 2 fighter in the worst middleweight era of all time does not make you an elite middleweight, the only elite middleweights Hopkins ever fought were Jones and possibly taylor, Hopkins is 0-3-0 against elite middleweights.

With regards to Joppy I seem to remember an interview where he spoke about trinidads handwraps after the fight?

How did Trinidad do in his next fight at the weight v Winky Wright, that would give us a better idea if Trinidad was truly elite at that weight?


Hearns was an exceptional win for Hagler. Hearns was a middleweight champion after Hagler, as well as champion at 168 and 175 afterwards. That shows you the real stature and suitability of hearns as a middleweight.

Duran, not so much a great win because that win was when Duran was past it and way above of his natural weight. Its says a great deal about the greatness of duran that he could still make that Hagler fight as competitive as he did though, and Duran did later go on to make himself a 160 champion with his victory over Barkley as well (not that Trinidad and ODLH belong in the same class as Duran and Hearns in the first place).



Can you do some research for me and answer the following questions :

How did Trinidad and ODLH progress at middleweight or above after they lost to Hopkins?

Where would t

 

Domestic match ups on hbo = HYPEJOB CITY :rofl

Tarver as p4p number 3 must be one of the most laughable views in boxing history, who did they have at number 4? Was it Chad Dawson or Jeff Lacy :rofl

 

It would be unfair to label Hopkins a ducker, he is probably the victim of being born in an exceptionally weak 160 era, spending too long there and then jumping to an exceptionally weak 175 era.

Roy Jones 2 and Calzaghe (2002) were the 2 main ones, the 2 career defining fights that could have boosted his ATG ranking.

What were the time lines like for making a match up with Toney, Nunn, Eubank, Benn, McCllellan at 168 in your opinion?

I could list one or 2 names from todays 175 division but it would be wrong to accuse a 47 year old of ducking, he has every right to do that if he chooses, like I say Hopkins longevity is the main mark of his greatness.