Hopkins v Calzaghe

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  1. BCS8

    BCS8 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    And yet, you just admitted that your scoring criteria are different to everybody else's.

    What's the point of me picking out a round where zaggers lands 15 punches to 10 if you're going to be a little child about it and petulantly say - as though you just got shot at cowboys and indians - nuh-uh, that doesn't count, you missed! :rolleyes:
    Sir, I protest! :mad: Since Boxed Ears went on hiatus I consider myself BF24's premier and most entertaining troll :nonono
     
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  2. HerolGee

    HerolGee Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    yes, he was able to beat good contender level LHW opponents, if you look at my posts I have already said he was a level above that, able to beat the weak titleholders but not the actual powers at the top of LHW.

    You lowballed my argument, actually making my pro calzaghe argument weaker.
     
  3. northpaw

    northpaw Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    An extremely ugly, at times amateurish looking fight. Bernard did **** and Calzaghe didn't do much but flail around. It was a horrible style mesh up but Calzaghe won, he was dedicated to his workrate and moving his hands.
     
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  4. Pound4PoundGG

    Pound4PoundGG Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I saw live what you see now.
     
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  5. KO Artist

    KO Artist Member Full Member

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    Not seen it in a long time, it was a messy fight and not much happened apart from that brief knock down. But Joe was busier and landed more (Didn't they say he landed more against Bhop than any other Bhop opponent?). Bhop was getting outworked at times in large stretches due to Joe's well known fast pace throughout. Bhop landed some good counters and pot shots , but nothing sustained. Joe won this though.
     
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  6. JabCross727

    JabCross727 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Calzaghe simply was the busier of the two and the one taking on the initiative in the figh . As much as BHOP is a legend in the sport, Joe got him on this on based on work rate.
     
  7. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    117-110 lol. Also lol at being intentionally naive about the meaning and interpretations of what corners tell their fighters- its totally always black and white and said literally. Definitely not meant to psyche a fighter up especially in close fights in hostel territory. Crazy how this fight still polarizes and causes major ass pain. Close fight that Calzaghe won through sheer work rate and not getting sucked into Hopkins world. Get over it already.
     
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  8. lefthandlead

    lefthandlead Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    First fight in America, he was scared of being robbed. Hopkins was looking for a way out. Or he was acting for a point deduction. You don't do that if you are winning.
     
  9. lefthandlead

    lefthandlead Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Name a super middleweight who unified the division, has more title defenses and retired undefeated?
     
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  10. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft Youngest Ezzard Charles Fan Ever Full Member

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    And gave another top 5 SMW his first loss
     
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  11. lefthandlead

    lefthandlead Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    LMAO!!:biggrin::biggrin:
     
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  12. HerolGee

    HerolGee Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    recognised title defences, or including when unrecognised?

    do you mean unified title defences or non unified unrecognised?
     
  13. lefthandlead

    lefthandlead Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    What do you mean?? That's the next fight I'm going to watch but I have to finish Ruiz/Oquendo, Wlad/Fury and the Ruiz/Holyfield trilogy. :drooling:
     
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  14. HerolGee

    HerolGee Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    tihng is even if you call it a draw, then its still joes best in in his wholecareer, this draw with a 43 year old man

    you shuld respects joes best effort of his entire career, that against a 43 year old.

    Must have been an amazing career to go out on such a high that chad dawson and kovalev acheived double so by winning emphatically.
     
  15. lefthandlead

    lefthandlead Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    When the division is unified, the previous defences count..just like with Hopkins and Tyson.
    Hopkins doesn't have the middleweight record if you only count his unified defenses. Carlos M. does. You have to count Hopkins IBF ones too.