How about Golovkin VS Pacquiao?

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  1. Clydebank Blitz

    Clydebank Blitz Don't Be Scared Homie Full Member

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    I completely agree. I wouldn't call that "ducking" though, I'd call that "business".

    I'm a big MMA fan, and other MMA fans complain about fighter pay the entire time, and say they should get managers etc. I always reply "Do you guys not see what's going on in boxing? People don't NEED to take fights. They all have loads of money, their managers can arrange them the easiest fights (because the managers are cowards, not the fighters)".

    Most of the time, a manager is afraid of a certain fight. The boxer himself is thinking "I'll fight anyone".
     
  2. antonio plaisir

    antonio plaisir the detonator Full Member

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    what is stupid is pretending this would be above 154, despite ggg saying he'd go to lmw for a ppv. of course, along with anything posted by this moron:
    there's several pages of answers you idiot. the vast majority heavily favour ggg.
     
  3. HoldMyBeer

    HoldMyBeer Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    but that's passing the buck, isn't it?
    guys like felix sturm make more money fighting stiffs in Germany, and never fighting a top MW since the reign of Bernard Hopkins (when sturm 'had a belt'), and he did it consciously
    he did it because its worked beautifully in Germany since the 80's, so why take more risks for less money - even if it brings more adulations?
     
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    It's just hard to see anyone in the world being able to withstand GGG's power. I'm here thinking "How the hell would Froch be able to take those shots?" and people are saying Pac should fight him?
     
  5. Clydebank Blitz

    Clydebank Blitz Don't Be Scared Homie Full Member

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    It's why I've fell out of love of boxing to be honest.

    This whole "exciting prospect" fighting people like 10 levels behind him to "grow". I hate it.

    That's why I prefer MMA now. I wish boxing could be "owned". I wish one guy was in charge of boxing and could say "You're fighting him. If not, have fun in the unemployment line".

    There's like 10 world title fights a year that are close on paper in boxing, and like 20 that have a clear winner before the fight takes place.
     
  6. HoldMyBeer

    HoldMyBeer Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    i couldn't agree with you more :good
    but it won't change until a federation that doesn't have a vested interest in the sport, or the outcome of fights, takes over
    outside of a billionaire who buys out the federations (which is what the sport needs badly), nothing will change
     
  7. Clydebank Blitz

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    Yeah I only really watch the good fights now (and Pacquiao, since you can't call his next one a 'good fight').

    Two guys that annoy me are Billy Joe Saunders and Chris Eubank Jr. I was watching these two guys when I was HUGE into boxing 3 years ago. I thought both could be champions.

    Here, 3 years later, they are still "getting experience against tough veterans who went 10 rounds against blah blah blah".
     
  8. HoldMyBeer

    HoldMyBeer Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    promoters like frank wa+ren get rich by that very philosophy once they get their fighters 'a belt', and at the expense of the fighter's careers
    by the time the fighter realizes what is happening, he also realizes his hard work in the ring has been undone by the fat cat who only wanted to feed off of him
    Nathan cleverly is a good example
    he wanted big fights, because war+en would never have matched him up with kovalev unless he pushed the envelope (we know cleverly wanted to push it because he pressured war+en into fighting in the US not one year before - which war+en would never have done on his own accord)

    it's a disease, but it's lucrative, so it won't stop happening