How did Canelo become so physically strong?

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  1. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    CBZ is not a valid source. It’s a couple old guys on a sinking ship.

    The Ring ratings to end 2015 were as follows:
    1. Brook
    2. Pac
    3. Khan
    4. Bradley

    It’s absurd to think that Pac and Bradley could’ve established a lineage with their fight and isn’t accepted by anyone.
     
  2. Pakkuman

    Pakkuman I'm not hot. I'm just BIG. banned Full Member

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    How about BoxRec, the OFFICIAL record keeper of the sport of boxing?

    Lineal Titles
    • World Flyweight Title (December 1998-September 1999)
    • World Featherweight Title (November 2003-March 2005)
    • World Junior Lightweight Title (March 2008-July 2008)
    • World Junior Welterweight Title (May 2009-July 2010)
    • World Welterweight Title (April 2016)
    You lose.

    :aaaaa:
     
  3. Pakkuman

    Pakkuman I'm not hot. I'm just BIG. banned Full Member

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    2 knockouts at 147 in 10+ years in the division. Cotto and Matthysse.
     
  4. Reinhardt

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    Didn't he stop Oscar?
     
  5. Pakkuman

    Pakkuman I'm not hot. I'm just BIG. banned Full Member

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    Oh yeah. Oscar was a zombie, though. Point I'm making is that unlike Clenelo, Pac is no mini tank. He's not densely built out and super strong and powerful. Pac is actually weak in terms of strength. He's bullied easily in clinches.

    So 3 knockouts in a decade plus in the division.
     
  6. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    You're a fanboy.
     
  7. Malph

    Malph Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This is most likely true. These guys were all probably on the juice at some point.

    I don't know much about Paz's work ethic but the other guys you mentioned were all totally professional and committed to their craft.

    They were great without or before PEDs but PEDs most likely allowed them to pack on functional weight, work harder and move up into higher weight classes than would have been possible without them.

    That's just my opinion and I don't think these are the only fighters who used them at points in their career.
     
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  8. lufcrazy

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    TBRB say the same also: https://www.tbrb.org/successions/

    I'm not going to debate what someone else has done.

    My own opinion on the matter is I don't think we'll ever again see someone who has claimed lineage at FLW and WW.

    However debatable that claim is.
     
  9. DON1

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    By eating lots of Mexican bull meat.
     
  10. NoNeck

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    I think we can find common ground in not recognizing Pacquaio's 154 belt.
     
  11. lufcrazy

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    That's right up there with Leonards SMW/LHW belts.
     
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  12. Pakkuman

    Pakkuman I'm not hot. I'm just BIG. banned Full Member

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    Yes, I'm a huge fan of Manny Pacquiao in the same way that you're a huge hater of Manny Pacquiao.

    But that doesn't change the FACT that the OFFICIAL record keeper of boxing recognizes Pacquiao as a FIVE TIME LINEAL CHAMPION, does it?
     
  13. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    They aren’t official and I’m no Pac hater. You just can’t handle fair criticism against Pac, like how he stuck to Arum’s stable.
     
  14. Pakkuman

    Pakkuman I'm not hot. I'm just BIG. banned Full Member

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    You're definitely a hater. All I seen is hate from you over the years. It's cool. You do you.
     
  15. Diddy

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    Rhetorical question?