How do Floyd fans defend this?

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  1. Toontoon

    Toontoon Boxing Junkie banned

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    How much was he offered for Margarito and how much did he make fighting Baldomir?
     
  2. Toontoon

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    But it's looking like Pac is the one that ducked the fight, so I'm not sure what point you're trying to make by saying it's Mayweather's money fight too.:huh

    As for taking sides, the 3 boxers that have been in the ring with both of them all think Mayweather would win, how is that for support?
     
  3. kgs83

    kgs83 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    $8 mill for Margo and common sense dictates that he never made that for Baldo. In the same way we know that for example May Pac will make alot, but May M.Hatton not so much (just at example).

    Don't get me wrong May loves the money, but even tho he says its the only factor, its not really. He chooses well as like many boxers.
     
  4. USboxer1981

    USboxer1981 The Real Def. MVP Full Member

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    your opinion is that Pac ducked it .... but it's floyd who made all the extra rules and obstructions ... there are many pro boxers who have said it looks like Floyd didn't want to fight. You know better then them though? I don't think so.

    Floyd has the history of fighting non-threatening opponents, pac does not. put 2 and 2 together.
     
  5. gyll

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    This is a moot point because Floyd has called out several elites in the past. There's a video of it somewhere on YouTube. Furthermore, Floyd was the first, between he and Pac, to step up and make an attempt to materialize the fight. He did what he should've done therefore there should be no complaints. Let's shy away from the past for a moment. Look at what's happening present day. Pac is giving the fans a watered-down fight that shouldn't even be a PPV whereas Floyd is in a real mega fight with Shane. This is not a biased opinion. It's a fact.
     
  6. Toontoon

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    Wiki seems to think he got $8 million for Baldomir too, probably because he was his own promoter.

    You also have to factor in that the $8 million for fighting Margorito was if he stayed with Arum too which is my understanding of it, who in his owns words admitted he had no interest in making him a fight with De La Hoya, and that he wasn't fit enough to fight Margo anyway when Arum wanted it as his hands were ****ed from fighting Judah.

    He fought Baldomir after DLH postponed the fight iirc, he tried to get Mosley in that time but that was when the whole vacation, tooth loose story came out after the Vargas fight.

    I don't know if it was a choice of either if you know what I mean.
     
  7. Toontoon

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    Most people gave Manny the benefit of the doubt over his claim about feeling weak and needing the extra time to recover, that appears to be bull**** now he's taken a bloodtest nearer to the fight than he was prepared to with Floyd and going 9 rounds with Roach straight after.

    I prefer taking every incident as it comes rather than putting 2 and 2 together, like I said the 3 guys who fought both of them all think Mayweather would win, do you think he would win or do you know more than them?
     
  8. bald_head_slick

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    Where did I even mention "fighting the best"? The depth of the WW division is controlled by one man, Bob Arum. You are probably another silly one not noticing that certain fighters keep meeting certain fighters unless fighters accept crap contracts. Funny how you act as though when two fighters try to fight only Mayweather gets the blame.

    You again don't know what you are talking about. Baldo was the lineal champ AND Mayweather completely controlled negotiations and pocketed 12 million for the fight. Do you even know what you are talking about?

    Carefully matched himself? Judah was the champ when he accepted the challenge. Mayweather took him out and then took on the man who beat Judah. He then went on to take on ATG DLH at his desired weight. What are you talking about?!?!
     
  9. kgs83

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    $12 mill....please.

    Yes you are insinuating he fights the best. Is that why he commonly gets so much stick from everyone that he is a ducker. As i said in previous posts he gets much credit from me for fighting Mosley. But this is the first good welter he is fighting since he has been at the weight.

    Stop making Judah out to be better than he is....dude lost to every half decent fighter and also baldo.
    Baldo is dead awful, don't make out like he will go out a great, he was a shite champ.

    And don't bring weight into it, mayweather didn't fight JMM at his desired weight, nor did he Hatton (yes i know it works both ways with pac, just pointing out your contradictions). Mayweather is bigger than pac 154 is makable for him. Can you imagine Pac at 154....eerr no.
     
  10. kgs83

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    Prob have valid points and point taken. Still don't believe he got $8mill for baldo.

    He shoulda taken the Margo fight as, as it stands Mosley will be his first major challenge at welter. Gd post.
     
  11. bald_head_slick

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    My claim isn't moot. This exactly PROVES my claim. Mayweather caved to EVERYTHING Team Pac said would be a sticking point! Team Pac ran away not Mayweather.

    No he could not have. Because if he did he would have had to possibly run from testing again. He did what anyone who knows a little about lying expected him to do. He went the road that would keep his position from being challenged.

    Who cares what pro boxers think? Do you care what the dry cleaner thinks about a lump on your sack? No. You ask an expert. The experts agree with? Mayweather!
     
  12. simon850

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    Couldn't have said it better myself.
     
  13. bald_head_slick

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    Are you standing by this nonsense? Who the hell was Margarito at the time? It was said he made approximately $12 million for Baldomir.

    And how the hell is M. Hatton even relevant to this discussion? Because some Pac fanboys threw him out there? We see what fight got made. We all know which fighter made the best fight.

    The ONLY WW that has a logical argument about being ducked is a WW Paul Williams. I don't blame any elite WW for not fighting him though. High risk and little reward.
     
  14. AnthonyW

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    Who actually cares what a boxer says outside the ring? Most boxers do there talking in the ring.
    Do they get paid for what they say outside the ring? No, unless they are promoting a bout. And they promote the bout in whatever way they can.
    Will they trash talk to try and get into there opponents head? Yes.
    Will this sometimes lead to them contradicting themselves? Most likely.

    I'm not defending Mayweather one bit. I'm a fan of Mayweather, but i'm not a fan of the persona he puts on when promoting himself and his bouts (IF he is putting this persona on).
    Let them be judged by what they do in the ring. Mayweather is not the first, and won't be the last person to contradict themselves.
     
  15. kgs83

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    Can you read english....as it appears to can't do that well. I said as an example to validate my point of how some fights you know will make alot and how others will not. Read it again as me not gonna explain to you.

    Errr his ww record is poor and if you think otherwise you are clearly a nuthugger. Cotto, Margo, Mosley, Collazo, Quintana, Berto, Williams.....he hasn't fought anyone of them, when the division was deep. You are clearly an idiot....i give him credit for finally stepping up at welter an fighting Mosley.

    And btw the JMM was a sham, making a dude come up at far in weight and then coming in over yourself. May shoulda thought a welter for his comeback not another lil guy.