How Do You Beat Wlad?

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  1. ocelot

    ocelot Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Every fighter is beatable, but the Wlad who lost to Sanders does not exist anymore. He's infinitely more disciplined defensively and his footwork is much better now. He still appears to panic when pressured, but the key difference between five years ago and now is that he doesn't crumble, and barely even gets hit. Haye would have about a round or two to capitalize on his speed and aggression, but after that it'll be all Wlad, by brutal beatdown. I agree with the Tyson and Frazier references. But even they would likely fail to 'reach' Wlad, and would suffer under his relentless jab. Ali's movement would give him a chance of evading and frustrating Wlad enough to win. And I think prime George Foreman would knock Wlad out cold. ymmv.
     
  2. ya-ni

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    You can't look for one punch, i think when brock was doing body work, he was scoring rounds, i think you have to focus on his body, an hope to go to the cards,,now some might say this not possible, that one punch is your only chance. Well look at brewsters win, it was not one punch, but wlad running out of energy, same with purity, now yes sanders was one punch, but wlad went straight at sanders after going down, now todays wlad would of got his legs back an kept distance, if you look at that fight, wlad went in for the kill, an he got nailed,,,,,,I think a good body fighter has a better chance then a head hunter with power,,,,,an people keep saying hayes, he is chin waiting to be broken, an he knows it better then anybody else,,,,back injury ha ha ha ha i heard it all now, spine problem he should of said, spinless
     
  3. 1lehudson

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    Close to the worst post but not that worst...Do you recall Ottke is greater then Robinson????
     
  4. the_brigand

    the_brigand I'll Eat Her Later... Full Member

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    ocelot, in my personal view I believe many people have a slanted view on the changes that Wlad has made, I think it is less this discipline defensively(yes, he has made great progress there too) but his discipline OFFENSIVELY that have made him a better, albeit less excitement friendly, fighter.
    In all of this three losses, against fighters with solid chins, he was far too offensively aggressive, twice exhausting himself and once walking into counter punches.
     
  5. ocelot

    ocelot Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Good point.
     
  6. JohnAkiBoa

    JohnAkiBoa Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Man stfu, you are the worst Klitschko hater this site has pretending to be some what reasonable and neutral boxing viewer. You are just annoying:rofl:patsch

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    That's sounds something about right. Im big fan of Wladimir Klitschko but excatly what you told, a guy like Mike Tyson would propably stylistically destroy Wlad in one single round. you forgot to mention Young Tyson's ability take mother ****ing huge punishment, of course because great movement Mike had he would avoid most of the punishent when coming in. Nightmare for Wlad, no doubt.

    I love when ppl try to act guys like Holmes or Lennox Lewis would have somewhat field day against Wlad, that is a ridiculous as it gets. Well Wlad has years to prove us wrong, too bad all his opponents are doomed to be bums. cannon fodder for Wlad already.:yep
     
  7. 1lehudson

    1lehudson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Its really not a great point since Wlad hasnt been in the ring with fighters that have that high of a KO%...In fact if you look at the numbers Wlad lat 5 have a 60% ko ratio while while Purrity has won 27 of 31 by knockout, Sanders has won 31 of 42 by knockout, and Brewster has won 30 of 35 by knockout...

    Wlad has been for the most part placed in the ring with guys that cant hit that hard...Its not even a matter of opinion is fact
     
  8. Rudyard

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  9. ocelot

    ocelot Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yeah, but he utterly destroyed Brewster the second time, and I think the 'new and improved' Wlad would have done the same the first time around.
     
  10. the_brigand

    the_brigand I'll Eat Her Later... Full Member

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    1lehudson, what does that have to do with what I said? How does that change the fact that Wlad no longer attempts to walk down guys with his guns blazing anymore? His style was always more Euro-Upright but he still used to come-at his opponents where as now he is more likely to box reserved and patiently from the outside.
    It doesn't change the fact that in his three losses he tried to fight guys he should have boxed!
     
  11. TheGreat

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    The Wlad we see today is the same guy who lost to Brewster, and struggled with Peter and TOS, its just that he hasn't fought a puncher in a while.
     
  12. 1lehudson

    1lehudson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    How many years and loses later???? Wlad didnt have the balls to rematch Brewster until he lost..OH now is the time for the rematch.....

    Wlad really fights no different, its more a matter of who he is fighting moreso the how he is fighting...The second fight with Brewster didnt look any different then the first minus Wlad getting knocked out:huh
     
  13. ocelot

    ocelot Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    What was different was that Wlad didn't gas himself, was more disciplined. If you can't see that then there's nothing anyone can say to change your mind. Though you are right that he's fought lighter punchers the last five years. But it's not like he had much of choice. There aren't that many big punchers at HW these days.
     
  14. TheGreat

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    Brewster was NOT the same fighter when the rematch took place, he had been in some downright wars and suffered a detached rettina. Brewster didn't swarm Wlad like he did the first fight instead he tried to box so he wouldn't get hit much, but Wlad was still nervous.
     
  15. barneyrub

    barneyrub Well-Known Member Full Member

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    stand up straight, out jab and push him back, hurt him with the right hand and walk in with the uppercut, as Lewis would have done to him as Wlad tries to grab hold. When Wlad lunges to hold is always when he leaves himself open.