How do you feel about Roy jones?

I fairly sure he beats most of the atg fighters at mw and smw and almost every lightheavy too. I only see mabe 4 throughout all three divisions were its close to call.

 

If he would've retired after Ruiz and fouught a little better opposition he would've been the greatest of this era. But then again there's the steroid problem too

 

similar to how i feel about danny williams

 

General Zod,

Thanks for the reply.

I think you're an absolutely fantastic poster, and I enjoy reading your posts. I have learnt a hell of a lot from you since becoming a member. You always post up links to back up your opinion, and I'd like to thank you for sharing links with me in the past etc. (that I've passed on to other members) All in all, I believe that you've got significantly more knowledge than me, with regards this great sport.

However, I think it's sad, that over the past 6 months or so, you can no longer exchange pleasantries. I've obviously annoyed you, and I guess it's for defending Roy.

So I want to clear a few things up. First off, I admit that at times I have been a little biased, because I think Roy gets a raw deal on here, and also, I guess like many others on here, I don't like to lose debates.

So regarding Roy, I know he's told a few lies. I know he should have fought some guys that he didn't. I know that he's made numerous mistakes in his career, and I can't abide the dog fighting and the **** fighting. So I'm not completely biased. For example, I've told you before that I've heard him say that he didn't want to fight Rocchigiani, and that in my opinion, he should definitely have fought Nunn at some point.

But these recent posts of yours, are biased, bordering on hate. They're not objective. I've read through all of them and certain things don't add up with what you've said previously. I know what we've discussed before, and I've got a good memory. So because I had some time on my hands over the weekend, I decided to go through the history of your posts.

In doing so, two things came to light.


1. Again, it highlighted the great knowledge that you have, and I learnt some more things that I hadn't previously been aware of.


2. Your recent posts are full of contradictions, that actually prove that you've been completely biased.


I don't know whether you're looking for an argument, because I annoy you, but what you've said in your recent posts, does not comply with what you've said over the past few years.

So I don't know whether you want to take this debate/argument any further, or whether you want to agree to disagree and to move on from it?

I've got far too much respect for you, to start bad mouthing you, and to post up your contradictions.

But I can do it, (post your contradictions, not bad mouth you) either if you don't believe me, or if you want to carry on the debate?

So I'll leave the ball in your court.


Once again, I think your a top class poster, and I'd like to thank you for introducing me to links and great books such as Dark Trade.

This forum would be a better place with more guys such as yourself.

 

a great fighter who should have hung them up a while back

 

Steroids unfortunately

 

h2h, best ever at 168.

Very probably at 175 too.

Top 20 ATG who would have been considered a top ten had he reitred after Ruiz or even Tarver 1.

 

Clueless freak Loudon has had his glass jaw shattered into a thousand pieces .

This thread was already one epic brutal beatdown on the Roid Jones Fanclub, but laughing stock fanboy Loudon will NEVER recover from this latest brutal humiliating pwnage. Now he's claiming General Zod is "completely biased" and sheepishly asking permission to quit. Priceless!!!

Loudon = LAUGHING STOCK .

F*cking ponce.

 

:roll: when was this?

You don't half talk some complete CRAP.

...like when you claimed I'd just said Hopkins was the man when Calzaghe beat him . The beatdowns I've given you must have left permanent damage.

Turdotime is a clueless metrofag, still butthurt from being abused on esb. Scurried off to the other site.

GIMPerial1 is a regular Team Elite punchbag. The worst poster I've ever seen, yet the two resident ***s think he's a "great poster" :roflatsch.

To be fair, GIMP shouldn't even be considered a real poster as he's a genuine spastic. The poor ******* obviously has severe learning disabilites aong with being completely delusional - see any of his posts on steroids or Roy Jones.

 

Your ENTIRE posts are great comedy moments you stupid *******. You're a laughing stock.

Pathetic yet hilarious examples of Loudon logic;

"Roy was frustrated and spoke in a different tone whenever he said he'd travel to Germany! He didn't mean it! So how the f*ck could he be contradicting himself?!"

[After ducking the 3 other title holders at 168lbs] "Jones moved to 175lbs for a fresh challenge!"

Then there was the pathetic story he invented about an imaginary Jones-Hill unification fight being thwarted by Jones-Griffin, which allowed DM to swoop in and fight Hill instead - a fairytale repeated by clueless vegetable Mind Reader - AFTER I'd schooled you clowns on it .

There's countless other examples which shall deservedly be mocked and ridiculed at a later date.

The funniest thing about this clueless pompous ponce Loudon is he's spent YEARS trying to convince people his hero wasn't a lying, ducking, cherry picking ego maniac, yet Loudon's so stupid and clueless that all he's managed to achieve with his fanboy drivel is inadvertently confirm everything Jones is accused of

Loudon = intellectual midget.

 

Oh Joseph, how we've all missed your great knowledge.

Have you returned to educate us? :rofl

With regards to Zod, I'll await his answer.

His post is completely biased, full of contradictions, and if he wants to see proof, I'll show him.

 

Can't even be bothered mate. You had your opportunity, and wasted it by tying yourself up in knots, and hurling insults around.

You're not worth my time.

Don't even bother replying. :good

 

Translation = I've lost and I quit!

Opportunity? Pompous clown.

The only one whose tied himself in knots is YOU . You've been brutally destroyed and your clueless fanboy delusions have been completely shattered. All that effort wasted .

 

:good

 

Toney was not in shape. Hopkins still a bit green. This takes away some credit from these victories.

Decent wins for Jones were Hill,Tarver, Reggie Johnson, Griffin and Ruiz.


Overall, Jones deserves to be critizised for not fighting top opposition in his prime (e.g.Calzaghe, Michalchewski, ToneyII, Jirov, HopkinsII...)

For that reason, he is more in the 30-50 ATG range in my opinion.