How do you feel Foreman would do against...

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  1. lufcrazy

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    Defensive boxers have a decent chance of taking him on points but very few guys can match his fire power to the degree I would favour them.

    Tyson can bring the fire required to beat foreman. I think mike knocks him out within 5 rounds.

    Vitali on the other hand does not. Foreman walks through vitali and stops him about the 7th.
     
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    I see the Foreman buffoon brigade is out in force in this thread.

    Meanwhile, back in reality, Foreman loses to both Tyson and Vitali, probably by knock out.
     
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    You think vitali will knock out foreman?
     
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    Foreman's problem is he cannot handle speed. Once he gets hit consecutively, he throws those arms out and becomes an open target.

    Forget the Joe Frazier comparison. Tyson was fine-tuned in getting around the fast Larry Holmes jab, so here he could proficiently slip the thick Foreman jab and come up with devastating, whistling hooks to the jaw with both hands before George knew what hit him.

    Tyson can get in two blows while Foreman lands one. And Tyson has a better chin.

    D'Amato talked about a strictly come-forward guy having no chance against Foreman.

    But Tyson--power and speed--was much more than that.

    And Foreman busts up Vitali.
     
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    Ridiculous. No one has ever come close to walking through Vitali and Foreman wouldn't either. The only fighters of any note that Foreman ever walked through in his whole career were Frazier and Norton (I'm not counting the Cooney fight). That's it.

    In reality, this is a fairly predictable fight. Vitali will block and avoid Foreman's telegraphed punches and tattoo his face with ease. I would even say that Foreman is not any more of a threat to Vitali than Chris Arreola was.

    "Err, but uh, Chris Arreola never beat Joe Frazier!!!1111" Yeah, but styles make fights. Deal with it.
     
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    Ffs go back to the general.
     
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    I see that you try to consider styles but the problem is that you have no idea what you're doing most of the time. Most of your predictions are garbage - no offense, chap. :yep
     
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    This is the problem with praise of Vitai. He looks unbeatable against no-hopers.

    It was a different story when he faced an out-of-shape, overconfident, creaky version of an all-time great in Lennox Lewis.

    It would be a whole other world to face George Foreman, whose power would quickly have Vitali on the back foot and, then, it would be curtains.
     
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    Vitali is not a strictly come forward fighter anyway, he has a hybrid style. Young made Foreman look amateurish through timing and craft and Young has none of the offensive threat that Vit does. Vitali is a nightmare stylistically for Foreman, he has an uncanny sense of distance and timing, a great chin, a very high workrate and is actually bigger than Foreman and could match him physically.

    Unless Vitali gets caught with something huge this would be a mid to late stoppage every time for Vitali, prime for prime.

    I would also favor Tyson, Foreman's defense was non existent at times and he is slow. Tyson's chin is more proven and he had great head movement. Foreman is stronger and would push him back, but so did a lot of Mikes opponents. Young George fought one way and he is going to be eating too many flush punches against Tyson. Tyson wins by stoppage.
     
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    The cuts took a lot out of Vitali in that fight and he was winning it anyway, it was a great fight. There is nothing to suggest that Lewis was over the hill anyway. So he more than held his own against an all time great, one that was a lot more multi faceted than a prime Foreman.

    Vitali fights off of the backfoot a lot of the time anyway, that is why he would beat Foreman. Foreman did not walk down far lesser fighters than Vit, i see nothing to suggest that he would have the ability to do it to Vitali either.
     
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    The general forum is waiting.
     
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    Foreman would have great difficulty landing effectively on Vitali. Foreman is not Lennox Lewis, he doesn't have the technique. Vitali would see the shots coming and avoid them. Meanwhile, Foreman is not going to avoid Vitali's punches, he's going to get battered as he comes forward. Even if Foreman manages to land a big shot, Vitali's iron chin means that Foreman doesn't even have a realistic puncher's chance.
     
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    Exactly.
     
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    Nothing? Just his age, weight, and complete sluggishness.

    Leon Spinks did too. A multi-faceted approach is not necessary against Vitali.

    Vitali is susceptible to bullying and George Foreman was the quintessential bully.

    Foreman would not respect Vitali's shots; he would come straight forward and walk Vitali down.

    Vitali would try to fight like Ali did in Round 1 in Zaire, shooting straight shots. Foreman would be looking to counter and soon land a hook. The problem is Vitali lacks Ali's chin. Foreman became frustrated because his missiles were not denting Ali, but the first Foreman bomb will discombobulate Vitali; George will not let Vitali off the hook and pound him into submission.

    Again, the Klitschkos have looked great against no-hopers. Yet, the half-hearted Corrie Sanders nearly finished both brothers.

    Corrie Sanders is no George Foreman.
     
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    See above.

    Vitali's strength is overrated: his bulked-up physique is still no match for Foreman's natural strength.

    Vitali's and Wlad's supporters are awed by their dominance of mediocre opposition. The brothers are dedicated, good fighters, but not anywhere near the top of the all-time ranks.