How do you rank the super-middles?

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by atberry, Aug 22, 2011.


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  1. roe

    roe Guest

    What has Dimitri Sartisan ever done to be higher than Abraham and Pavlik? Also Wilczewski shouldn't be above George Groves or Peter Quillin IMO.

    Rankings are pointless anyway because nobody beats people above them to move up. It's pretty much all bias and down to who's managed/promoted the best.
     
    roe, Aug 22, 2011
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  2. Matt Ldn

    Matt Ldn Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Agree rankings should be taken with a pinch of salt but they are helpful if you dont take them as gospel.

    what have pavlik or abraham done at 168? abraham has that win against Taylor a fairly shot career MW.

    Ward, Froch/Kessler, Bute in that order. I sway on froch and kessler because Kessler beat froch but i feel that if that fight happened again it would be a Froch win.
     
    Matt Ldn, Aug 22, 2011
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  3. CamR21

    CamR21 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If its on achievement then its either Froch or Ward, if its who i think is the best the Bute all day long
     
    CamR21, Aug 22, 2011
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  4. Moe Greene

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    How can you rank based on 'I think this would happen if they fought?' :huh Rank on what has actually happened.
     
    Moe Greene, Aug 22, 2011
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  5. KingCobra

    KingCobra IBF World Champion Full Member

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    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ubwvycDfq8[/ame]
     
    KingCobra, Aug 22, 2011
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  6. CamR21

    CamR21 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Then its :
    Froch
    Ward
    Kessler
    Bute

    Im just saying i think Bute is the best out of them
     
    CamR21, Aug 22, 2011
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  7. TFFP

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    Ward
    Froch
    Kessler
    Bute
     
    TFFP, Aug 22, 2011
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  8. sud2002

    sud2002 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Based on who would beat who; I have Ward and Bute in the top 2..... Give the edge to Bute though (maybe that's me being bias though as I'm not a fan of Ward's style).
     
    sud2002, Aug 22, 2011
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  9. almsn

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    Abraham's moved back down to middleweight .Martinez Abraham would be good I think .Abraham's got solid ko power at 160 .About 11 ibf world title fight's and 11 clean ko's .
     
    almsn, Aug 22, 2011
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  10. WalletInspector

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    Ward
    Froch
    Kessler
    Bute
     
    WalletInspector, Aug 22, 2011
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  11. Grant1

    Grant1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ward
    Kessler
    Froch


    Bute
     
    Grant1, Aug 22, 2011
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  12. SuperiorBeen

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    How can Froch be #1 when he had his ass kicked by Kessler and out-boxed by Dirrel and Taylor.
     
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  13. trotter

    trotter Boxing Addict Full Member

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    None of those statements is true.

    You can't have a sensible debate if you just exaggerate all the time.

    He beat both Dirrell and Taylor and lost a close but clear one to Kessler on Kessler's home turf.
     
    trotter, Aug 23, 2011
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  14. Vano-Irons

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    Lol. Anyway:

    Ward
    Froch
    Kessler
    Bute
    Dirrell

    For me Dirrell would be above Bute had it not been for his inactivity. Dirrell has a better win to his name (Abraham while he was still hot property). He also did very well against Froch and was unlucky to lose. Bute was knocked out by Andrade and beat an old Magee. How anyone has him at number 1 is beyond me.
     
    Vano-Irons, Aug 23, 2011
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  15. sniffmybadger

    sniffmybadger Relationships are not my forte Full Member

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    :good
     
    sniffmybadger, Aug 23, 2011
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