How do you rate Abraham's performance in the Dirrell fight?

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  1. 1HitterQuitter

    1HitterQuitter RUTHLESS BY LAW Full Member

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    who ever picked the first option is pretty frickin dumb
     
  2. UpperCut2

    UpperCut2 Active Member Full Member

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    Sad isn't it. I hope the 16 women their involved with believe in BIRTH CONTROL. :think
     
  3. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    And yet again, I will raise a point that I have caught nothing but **** for making multiple times over the last couple years.

    You beat Arthur Abraham by jabbing the **** out of him. The man basically has no answer for a good jab, and I have been saying that FOR YEARS!

    And, I also said hurt him in those first few rounds while he is standing around like he is waiting for a ****ing bus, and ya got him beat!

    Check my post history! I've been saying these things since 2007!!!

    Boo Radley -- vindicated by Andre Dirrell -- who'da uh thunk it!
     
  4. UpperCut2

    UpperCut2 Active Member Full Member

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    :thumbsupYou're really looking like the "prophet". Great observations, you never backed off. Abraham's really transparent. Most get lost in his "alleged" power. I say "alleged" because the same fools who said he has this absolutely "CRIPPLING" power are the same idiots saying that AD was faking it. You can't have it both ways. Either he can punch or he can't. I say he can. However, he can be beat by anyone who can BOX and take a decent shot on the button. Keep up the volume and he withers like a leaf off a tree. Anyway, you called it and we all got to see it...:bbb
     
  5. PIPO23

    PIPO23 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He's just a puncher, but SLOW.
     
  6. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    I have an advantage over most posters where AA is concerned, Back in 2008 we had endless Pavlik/Abraham debates on ESB, and I studied the hell out of AA. I'm a bit obsessive, and I enjoy breaking down the minute details. I saw Arthur having the same problems, and making the same mistakes fight after fight after fight.

    Whenever I brought these things up I got called a hater, a nuthugger, et, et. I was not hating or nuthugging. I was simply stating the facts about what I saw.

    However, my track record picking winners is a long way from 100%. Based on the Hanshaw and Froch fights I simply could not bring myself to predict a win for Dirrell. If I had, I'd really look like "a prophet."

    I'm a little excited about Dirrell now, and I hope he continues to improve. This kid could turn out to be the real deal.
     
  7. Finn73

    Finn73 Boxing Addict Full Member

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  8. CarlesX7

    CarlesX7 Shit got real! Full Member

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    @ Boom_Boom

    If you read this, please elaborate on how you saw the fight and AA's performance.
     
  9. WatchfortheHook

    WatchfortheHook Boxing Addict Full Member

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    As a fan of Abraham's I was pretty disappointed, he has his obvious shortcomings but the fact that he wasn't really jabbing effectively until Dirrell started fading was discouraging. Also, the most frustrating thing from the fight was that he didn't go to the body like he usually does. I thought the thing that would separate Froch and Abraham is that Abraham actually goes to the body. However, he came out looking like a headhunter when I thought it should have been a priority for him to work the body. Those were some of the more discouraging things. I expected him to have a lot of trouble with Dirrell's movement and speed. So overall a pretty poor performance. In spite of his poor performance I thought he had a decent(though not great) chance of getting a late KO...I know some people will wonder why I would think that because Abraham was not landing much in the 11th, the reason being is I thought Abraham started having moments in the 9th and 10th and was under the impression that Dirrell was fading a bit.
     
  10. lanzelotz

    lanzelotz Member Full Member

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    I´m an AA fan, too. Although I lost some respect for him. He should have show some class after the foul and apologize.


    Perhaps that´s something we AA fans wanted to see. Yeah sure he had some moments in these rounds you mentioned, but he wasn´t taking over the fight by any means.
    Imo Dirrell was still good at this point of the fight, he continued to move well and kept a good distance.

    Overall AA´s performence was bad. He didn´t go to the body as you said, he didn´t listend to his corner and Dirrell really made him look slow. He didn´t show any gameplan, perhaps he lost it after the kd in the 4th.
     
  11. WatchfortheHook

    WatchfortheHook Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I agree with you. He wasn't taking over the fight. But I gave him a decent chance, not better than decent, not good, not great, just a decent chance of landing a late KO simply because Dirrell was fading and Abraham needs less chances than most to finish someone and thats the only reason I gave him a decent chance because he certainly wasn't taking over a la Froch vs. Taylor.
     
  12. Hermit

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    You also said he was a part of Saurland's marketing genius. That part remains intact. Saurland throws AA the 'acting line' and now the board is discussing whether AA KO'd Dirrell, like AA admitted in the first part of the interview instead of discussing how intentional of an act it was. Saurland's reputation comes through in tact. A true skunk.
     
  13. lanzelotz

    lanzelotz Member Full Member

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    Ok thanks now it´s clear to me.
    But well with AA a ko is always possible.
    There was although a decent chance the fight would have been stopped because of the cut over AA´s eye.
    What an frustrating night, I stayed up all night to watch the fight, but because of AA stupid foul, we couldn´t see the end.
     
  14. NALLEGE

    NALLEGE Loyal Member banned

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    You Pav fans haven't predicted shite lol... You have aways been saying AA would lose... even to bums, and it took until AA was 30 years old for him to lose by DQ. AA started too late, and he let Dirrell get confidence. The fight wasn't over, but AA showed me that he could be outboxed by a slickster. Those guys at 168 are tall and long, and AA has to start earlier against these guys. AA suffered the same fate Jones did against Griffith. This fight deserves a rematch...
     
  15. pasky2000

    pasky2000 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He's definitely in a class of his own, I'm sure even Don King occasionally takes notes watching him go about his business...

    I still can't believe him jumping up and down in joy after the "Beyer-Lucas" bout. Beyer knew he lost that fight but Sauerland made sure he'd win it before the 1st bell rang...

    Let's not even mention the Miranda I fight.....that's a disgrace...