How do you rate Joe Bugner?

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  1. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Get realer. . Neither Klitschko would have been a dominant champ during the 70's :facepalm:
     
  2. Ken Ashcroft

    Ken Ashcroft Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Like most brits about to retire and looking for a quiet uneventful place with a warm relaxing climate to see out their remaining days in a rocking chair looking out at the sun setting over the sea, Joe chose Australia.

    Once he settled there however, even though he was pushing 75 years old, he found that he was still the best heavyweight boxer on the continent and so couldn’t resist making a comeback and making some easy money.Thus the legend of Aussie Joe was born even though it was thought that most Australian men still preferred to be called Bruce.
     
  3. ideafix12

    ideafix12 Active Member Full Member

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    Comparing Bugner with Klitschkos is a mistake. Bugner would not have been dominant champion in any era, he has several losses against mediocre fighters
     
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  4. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Comparing them how? You need to explain yourself as i didn't actually say Bugner was on the level of the Klitschko's career wise.
    The base level skillset of Wladimir Klitschko was no better than Joe Bugner.

    Vitali Klitschko didn't have a better skill set than Tony Tucker or Buster Douglas , but he separated himself from those guys by being light years more committed and dedicated.

    Wlad was a basic boxing by numbers guy same as Bugner , but Wlad had a far greater hunger to succeed than Bugner did. Boxing is 99% mental and thats where Klitschko were at their best.
    But if you shrunk Wladimir down to MW , he would be no better than Felix Sturm skill wise.
     
  5. Noel857

    Noel857 I Am Duran Full Member

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    He was rated highly by Ali and Lyle so that will do for me
     
  6. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Colin Heart praised Bugners defensive craft against Ali and Frazier.
     
  7. Johnny_B

    Johnny_B Active Member Full Member

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    Yes they would, apart from Foreman, Lyle and Ali, nobody would stand a chance against them.
     
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  8. Fergy

    Fergy Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Lol. That's the next thread Cecil, Klitchko s verse Bugner oppenent s!
     
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  9. Fergy

    Fergy Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If Bugner was fighting at his very best, then he'd frustrate the hell out of George..not sure tho if he could get the full rounds in.
     
  10. William Walker

    William Walker Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Bugner was a decent fighter to me, but was too passive to ever do better than he did. He was tough, he could box, he could punch, but it didn't much matter, he didn't seem like he liked what he was doing, and failed to impress the majority of the time. He had the tools to be better, but not the heart.
     
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  11. Seamus

    Seamus Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Actually that's a horrible comparison. Bugner isn't even in the same league as either K Bro. He had neither the talent, power or skill of Wlad. He utterly lacked the warrior and athleticism of Vitali.

    But you know all this.
     
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  12. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Of course i know what i know cos some of the things you mention were already mentioned by me earlier. . I also know that Bugner had a better understanding of the core basics of boxing than Vitali did, and thats proven by how he performed against guys ranked on the top 10 ATG list.

    The skill of Wlad was exposed when he fought boxer/movers like Williamson , Fury and aggressors like Brewster and Povetkin.

    If Bugner was as strong and powerful as Wlad , and fought to his rules enabled by his own personal ref , he would have defeated Frazier by jumping all over his back everytime he came close.
     
  13. haileris

    haileris New Member Full Member

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    Bugner killed someone (Ulric Regis according to google). My dad always told me that that affected the way he boxed - no longer had the real will to push on when things got tough.