How do you rate Tim Bradley?

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  1. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Loyal Member Full Member

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    One thing I found funny was how Bradley clearly hurt his leg in like round 3 or 4 and the commentators never seemed to call it'

    He hobbled back to the corner and said my leg hurts and Diaz started yelling do you want me to stop the fight, no so ok lets fight

    Bradley limped to the corner for the rest of the fight with no notice at all

    Actually I noticed during the broadcast that if you add up all the different rounds the 3 judges and lederman gave to Bradley I believe it added up to 6 or 7
     
  2. jim jim

    jim jim Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    yeah man he was limping the whole second half fight and no one said a word, Noone even after it said much n this site or anywhere else
     
  3. MN_Logan

    MN_Logan Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I rate him highly. After Pacquiao and Mayweather retire he's gonna be the new top dog at WW.
     
  4. Manfred

    Manfred Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    What's the modern definition of welter weight?
     
  5. elchivito

    elchivito master betty Full Member

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    Yea, at least right now, he's definitely right behind Mayweather and Pacquiao most likely numero 3 ww. He's still pretty fresh in his prime, physically very strong, very fast, good boxing IQ, stamina, fast feet, infights well and can box from a distance, and tho outgunned by bigger punchers this guy still finds a way to win. Hasn't been ko'd yet either, unless you want to count the Prov fight as he was out on his feet, but instinctively still swinging! Lol Alot of feathers in his cap too, has alot of experience too. Thurman or Khan ain't definitely ready for him, only one I see really pushing him and possibly beating him is Maidana, who at this point is at his best and I think is on par with Bradley with his underrated skills and awkwardness.
     
  6. victor879

    victor879 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think he's over-rated by many. Quality boxer, but nothing to write home about. No, I don't think he's the #3 WW, and I actually don't think he's going to have much success at 147. I thought he struggled with an old JMM and if Marquez was younger Bradley would have lost. He went to war with Provo who I also feel is over-rated. Those are his only legitimate wins at 147.

    Never been sold on Bradley.
     
  7. Boxmaster

    Boxmaster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He does everything A+ except power. If he had punching power he would have knocked Pacquiao out worse than Marquez and we would be talking about him fighting Mayweather.

    He lost to Pacquiao only because he didn't have power. He had everything else equal to Pacquiao and his ring intelligence and defense are superior to Pacquiao.


    Saying he does everything A+ except power doesn't mean he would beat Mayweather who seems to do everything A+ with power but that is the main difference. I also think Mayweather has slightly better defense and speed but not enough of a difference to say Bradley doesn't have A+ defense and A+ speed.

    It's kind of like James Toney and Roy Jones Jr both had A+ defense and speed but it was a different kind of speed and defense. Bradley is extremely hard to hit when he fights technical and disciplined. He pretty much showed that when he humiliated Marquez.

    If he had the power of Mayweather he would have probably have made the fight look the same way.
     
  8. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA Full Member

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    Very accurate assessment of Bradley, by the way. :good
     
  9. Boxmaster

    Boxmaster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Bradley is A+ and the #3 best boxer period. You can make a case that Rigondeux and Floyd have better power and defense but Bradley can hang in with anyone.

    Ward said Bradley was his toughest fight. Pacquiao barely made it past Bradley in the second fight and only because Bradley tried to intimidate with power when he doesn't really have that kind of power.

    Bradley has everything except power. His speed is as good as Pacquiao. His footwork also seemed to be as good as Pacquiao. His defense was better than Pacquiao. His stamina was as good as Pacquiao.

    Anyone who can go two fights with Pacquiao without getting hurt is elite. Cotto could not do this. Marquez could not do it. So that means Bradley is physically an equal athlete to Pacquiao in everything except power and seems to have better defense because Pacquiao was hitting air in the first fight.

    How can anyone say Bradley isn't #3 when looking at his resume? He has beaten everyone including a win on Pacquiao. The only fighter he hasn't beaten is Mayweather but no one has beaten Mayweather.

    I know people will say he won in a robbery against Pacquiao but he still won the fight. Winning even if it's considered a robbery it's still winning. People thought Mayweather won in a robbery against DLH because that fight was close too but everyone knows Mayweather gets credit even if he won by the skin of his teeth.
     
  10. Boxmaster

    Boxmaster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It might actually be a good idea for Bradley to drop down in weight if he cannot get any more big fights at WW. You're right his lack of power is his only real weakness keeping him from being another Mayweather or Ward.
     
  11. victor879

    victor879 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I can say he isn't #3 (at 147) because he hasn't really fought or beat anybody at 147. (JMM and Provo don't just launch you to #3)

    He is #3 based on his campaign at 140 pounds (which was excellent, no argument there about his ranking at 140), and a bogus decision over Pacquiao. Provo is campaigning at 140 pounds. So in reality, the only guy Bradley has beat at 147, that is still fighting there, is Marquez. That's it. Sorry, he doesn't get credit for his "win" over Pacquiao in my view. That decision goes beyond a "robbery" to "are you F'ing kidding?"

    I think Thurman beats him. You have Porter, Brook, Khan, Maidana, Guerrero.... He has not fought any of these guys. And to say he'd certainly beat any of these guys in the list is a stretch. Bradley would have a fight on his hands in all of these matches: win, lose, or draw and he definitely does not win them all in my opinion.

    At 147 pounds, I feel Bradley is over-rated. Top notch boxer as I said before, so I don't disagree with some of your assessment of Tim. ("Quality Boxer")

    If you feel Tim is #3 at 147 pounds, we'll have to agree to disagree.