Yeah, pretty much agree with consensus here. It affects him in the here and now. His legacy will see two wins over a hall of famer. Few people will remember the nature of the win - similar as noted to others who have had the same happen to them most notably Ali and Norton. I just hope JMM gets the credit he deserves in future years.
:-( I had Mayweather edging both fights. They were both close, to say Mayweather dominated Castillo is beyond a joke.
Thing is, the general consensus/public perception is not really the 'real' answer. The historians will hopefully do the research (um, watch the fights objectively) and realise that Pacquiao, shock horror, was not unbeatable! Just like anyone who says Julio Cesar Chavez earned a draw with Sweet Pea is rightly scorned. The Ring Record, okay, will be the thing hacks and 'mainstream' fans of the sport will see, and that's fair enough. But it's not the truth. Looking at how many guys between 18-30 are still painstakingly researching everywhere from 1880-present day, I would hope that Marquez still gets credit for the performances he put in. Just as anyone with half a brain can do for Norton. There's a difference between crediting a fighter with a win (Pacman) and discrediting a fighter for losing against another top fighter (Pacman) Reason this fight has shocked so many is because we're used to cherry picked dead' cert' fights. When one that looked like one on paper turned out the other way it's 'how **** really is Pacquiao'? All the 'greats' were up against it throughout their careers. If you fight the best fighters around it's impossible not to be.
Is interesting. If Whitaker had got the decision over Chavez would people still have rated him below him in lists such as this by ESPN in 2007? Whitaker, Charles and RJJ seem most unfairly treated here... 1. Sugar Ray Robinson 2. Muhammad Ali 3. Henry Armstrong 4. Joe Louis 5. Willie Pep 6. Roberto Duran 7. Benny Leonard 8. Jack Johnson 9. Jack Dempsey 10. Sam Langford 11. Joe Gans 12. Sugar Ray Leonard 13. Harry Greb 14. Rocky Marciano 15. Jimmy Wilde 16. Gene Tunney 17. Mickey Walker 18. Archie Moore 19. Stanley Ketchel 20. George Foreman 21. Tony Canzoneri 22. Barney Ross 23. Jimmy McLarnin 24. Julio Cesar Chavez 25. Marcel Cerdan 26. Joe Frazier 27. Ezzard Charles 28. Jake LaMotta 29. Sandy Saddler 30. Terry McGovern 31. Billy Conn 32. Jose Napoles 33. Ruben Olivares 34. Emile Griffith 35. Marvin Hagler 36. Eder Jofre 37. Thomas Hearns 38. Larry Holmes 39. Oscar De La Hoya 40. Evander Holyfield 41. Ted "Kid" Lewis 42. Alexis Arguello 43. Marco Antonio Barrera 44. Pernell Whitaker 45. Carlos Monzon 46. Roy Jones Jr. 47. Bernard Hopkins 48. Floyd Mayweather Jr. 49. Erik Morales 50. Mike Tyson