How does Wlad-Peter II play out?

Peter would have to solve Wladimir's jab. That's all there is to it. Well, maybe not all but it would definitely help.

 

I totally agree with several posters...Peter improvement in skills won't do **** for him..skill wise even the 'improved' Peter is nothing compared to Wlad. Peter's only chance to to swarm Wlad and get a big punch in and I think the chances of that happening are extremely remote.

 

Someone please tell me where Peter has made these remarkable improvements. He looked nearly identical in Toney I and Toney II. The big difference was how much worse Toney looked in the two fights. Yeah he looked a lot better against Toney in the second fight but a lot of that had to do with Toney looking completely SHOT. Look at Toney's last 4 fights

He looked mediocre against an equally mediocre Rahman. He looked good enough to arguably beat Peter in the first fight. Then he looked terrible against Peter in the rematch and terrible against the journeyman he fought in his last fight. The last four fights have not the same Toney who fought Holyfield and Ruiz, not even close

Now please outline for me how these supposed "improvements" he made, where he was fighting an overweight, immobile, 5'9", 37 year old former middleweight with fading reflexes and below average power by heavyweight standards, and them explain how these improvements going to translate to fighting a prime, 6'6" 240 pound heavyweight who has already beaten Peter and has conistently improved with every fight since then


I keep hearing the Peter crowd talk about these mysterious "improvements". What exactly are they? And what evidence is there that he's going to be able to implement them against Wlad? Or are you guys just failing to take into account that what works against a shot, much smaller opponent, might not work against a prime full blown heavyweight with the jab and the range that Wlad has

 

The first Toney fight was a Toney win, and the powers that be realized that, or else they would not have ordered a rematch in an eliminator, you jackass.

And Brewster was cleared and proven to be fully healed from the eye injury, 100%. He even told Merchant post fight that the eye didn't give him any problems and was not a reason for the loss.

Jackass.

 

I stopped taking Toney seriously as a Heavyweight contender when he fought Booker.....................

 

The reason the WBC ordered a rematch was because of the popular demand and the cry baby Toney fans and Media who support him, Much the way they have Given that quitter VItali Klitschko his status when he got cold feet when he was forced to fight Rahman.
if Toney beat his ass then explain why the judges didnt see it that way? and why couldnt Toney repeat in the rematch?
Brewster was cleared to fight in germany, had the fight been in the states I dont think he would have been cleared to fight, Germany is just as corrupt as any other place.
Now on to the reality of the facts, Wlad didnt dominate on the cards against Peter in their first fight, he did in rounds but not in terms of points, both men have improved, but Peter showed this improvment against a guy who knows how to box slip and move with good handspeed.
Wlad has shown his improvment against Byrd Austin and Brewster like I said the Brewster fight, we know his eye was ****ed up, taking nothing away from Wlad he did what he had to do to fight, and its not Wlads fault that Brewsters eye was ****ed up, Brewster wanted the fight so its his fault.
But your not going to tell me that Austin and Byrd validate him are you? a rematch with Peter will provide us with a clear picture of who the better man is and who has improved more.
when the fight happens bring it my way, I am up for a avatar bet if you are?

 

Nope, not strange. I fully agree with that sentiment. If he tries to box with Klitschko, he gets pounded. He needs to go out brawling, throwing hard punches and land, coming forward.

 

Nice avatar, Peter is the Rabbit King!!!

 

Certainly.

And everyone with eyes saw that Toney won the first fight. They don't order rematches in eliminators. But they did here cause they realized that it was a rediculous decision, and that Toney won that fight.

And no, Byrd and Austin don't validate Wlad, but them, together with Brock and Brewster certainly does. Wlad beating the last four opponets and in the very brutal way in which he manhandled them certiainly validates him and his clear dominance over the rest of the division.

Wlad would probably handle Peter about as easily as he did Brewster. I'd say the result would be very much like the Brewster rematch was.

 

I was at the fight, and everybody in staples center didnt feel that way, everybody in my section knew Toney got his ass beat.

 

:smoke Is the live perspective alot different from TV !

 

As was the case in the Mosley De La Hoya rematch

 

Many people had Toney winning the 1st fight with Peter, that's kinda why they had a 2nd eliminator.

Many people also thought Rahman had beaten Toney just before that also, so let's not make like beating either version of Toney was anything so special that it should even warrant an eliminator in the first place.

The last time Toney actually looked pretty good was when he beat Ruiz while tesing positive for steriods....................

 

94 clinches over 12 rounds KLIT-ITES. :deal

He better bring a harder jab next time, or his ass is going to sleep. No way he pulls another John Ruiz and gets away with it. Take points! :happy

 

Like I said Many people are not the judges end of your arguement!