Exactly he fought a Ruiz style fight to get past Peter I fully expect the ***** to come out of him again in the rematch
How many blatant rabbit punches did Peter throw against Wlad and Toney without getting points deducted?
True but how many times did Wlad turn his head when that happend, I know one for sure was behind the head, but the other two were not intentional.
It wasn't just against Wlad though. He does it in almost every fight. He threw a shitload of them against Toney. He got warned for it in the first round of the second fight and continued to it. He threw an excess of rabbit punches in both fights against Toney and they didn't take a point So you can't really complain about Wlad holding when Peter throws rabbit punches regularly, in almost every fight he's in. One of Sam's favorite techniques in the Toney fights was to use his left hand/forearm to push Toney's head into position, especially when Toney was backed against the ropes, then bring a clubbing right shot aimed at the back of Toney's skull. He did it repeatedly in both fights
Correct. Rabbit punches are illegal because it can hurt a fighter & it's an unfair punch where supposedly "excessive clinching" only slows a fighter down. A real boxer would never let his opponent clinch in the first place.
None, zilch, zero. Both Klitschko and Toney gave him their backs, which resulted in the so called "rabbit punches." NOTHING blatant about that.
Bull-f'n-**** :yep If you didn't see him use his hand and forearm to push Toney's head into position for a clubbing shot aimed square at the back of the head more then once then you just didn't see it. But it happened, and not just a couple times either
Incorrect. The instance Shotgun is referring to is not an illegal punch. A rabbit punch is a punch square on the back of the head, on the cerebellum portion where the skull meets the neck. A punch to the side of the head around the ear is NOT illegal. There were two lone instances where Sam hit Waldo and Toney in these places. And both are easily explainable as accidental, NOT blatant. The first being where Waldo was stunned by a big left hook in the 5th round I believe. He spun around and tried to grab Sam, but was FACING Sam as Sam threw the right hand. Then as the punch was already on it's way Waldo turned away in a collapsing fashion and caught the punch on the back of his head after he was already on the way to the canvas. FACT. The other with Toney was with Toney on the ropes, ducking real low and putting his head down after getting rocked. Toney was a master here are trying to draw fouls. He was even warned for it in the rematch.
You clearly do not know what the back of the head is. Allow me to elaborate. The portion of the skull around the ear is NOT the back of the head. The back of the head is actually 2-3 inches beyond the back of the ear on an adult human, where the skull CURVES and shows a FOURTH side. It's actually quite like a rounded box. You see it still has four sides. The frontal region which houses the eyeballs, nose and mouth. The left and right sides which house the ears, and then the back which is where a punch in boxing is illegal. Thank you for listening. I sure hope it sunk in. :good See what Wiki has to say about the rabbit punch while you are at it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rabbit_punch
http://youtube.com/watch?v=DxLpJpyEOmE Fast forward to about 2:45 and watch what ensues Now if you tell me you can't see Peter push Toney's head into position with his left, and aim multiple, downward, chopping shots at the back of Toney's head repeatedly in the next 30 seconds or so, you're either blind or don't know what you're talking about
That's funny if Zack said the sky was red with green dots you would agree. People talk about Peter's improvement..... from what his win over fat Ol Toney and don't forget he lost that first fight and everybody knows it that's why they made him fight Toney again.And when they fought the first time Wlad had alot of pressure on him, he had recently had his 2 brutal losses and if he would have lost to Peter he would have considered retiring. Wlad has improved way more than Peter and Wlad has more confidence now in which I'm sure at that time he douted himself. Don't let Zack's chin obsession blind the facts. He must find it weird how a guy like Wlad with a questionable chin can be so successfull.
ONE, which was the punch I described above actually was on it's way and hit Toney in the back of the head. And just as I described, it was because Toney dropped so Sam only had one place to land it, the back of the head. Every other punch upstairs landed on the ear or just behind it. Those are completely legal punches. What you don't seem to understand is how small the window is to hit someone who turns their back on you like that and then gets real low. It's impossible to hit them without drawing a foul, which is what Toney was after. And I feel you don't know what you are talking about. Honestly. You seem to think those punches had illegal on them when they didn't. Punches to the side of the head are NOT illegal. There was one illegal punch there and it happened to be the result of Toney dropped low enough for the punch to land on his neck.