How good is Charles Martin?

Martin doesn't have a whole lot to lose, he's unfancied and not expected to do anything but fall over or fall victim to a British stoppage, the pressure is all on Joshua.

 

Martin isn't as poor as people think in my opinion.

I believe Joshua wins but Martin does a lot of things well, yes he looked a little clumsy and green in his earlier fights but he has progressed and developed a style that he now looks comfortable in.

Martin carries decent power, rarely over reaches, rarely falls in and is decent counter puncher.

Both men are unbeaten, both have excellent KO ratios, both are hungry and are going in to Saturday night wanting to win.

So I want Joshua to get credit if/when he wins, none of this "Martin was a bum" rubbish and if the upset happens then Martin should get full credit and none of "Joshua was a over hyped bum".

 

Anyone with Ajs muscle bulk has probably got poor stamina. The longer Martin can stay competitive in this fight, and the more he can drain "Mr Muscles" energy, the better his chances become.

Put it this way - if Martin is still fighting competitively after 6 rounds I give him a good chance of winning.

 

Hope AJ does it, another british champ is great.

Still think he is slightly overrated but has bags of potential.

Lets face Whyte is not a good fighter and he caused AJ all sorts of bother. AJ still has loads to learn. But I'm sure he will.

 

I thought haymon was on set fees instead of percentages, thats part of the model as to why they pay bigger purses?

 

Good sensible post

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This time last year he was fighting Tom Dallas!

 

Is Gavern much better? At least he didn't take 3.5 rounds.

 

I think the point is that people keep suggesting that this has come too soon for AJ, yet people are ignoring the fact that martin has fought at a very similar level. Both inexperienced, both never fought anyone as good as the other, should be interesting.

 

I've seen 3 Martin fights.

Pros: I thought he was pretty consistently busy for a heavy weight. Not what you'd call a high work rate, but he's constantly thinking and keeping engaged and generally in range, which adds pressure to the opponent.

Obviously has decent pop, good knock out ratio.

Throws decent counter punching shots, but that's been against fighters who don't carry the power of Joshua.

He can have a good jab, but he is guilty of throwing it very lazily and pawing with it, against Joshua I can imagine a quick sharp right hand coming over the top.

Cons: His jab can be a pro and a con.

He lacks head movement, but so does Joshua.

He can be guilty of carry a low guard, but had really improved this trait in the Glazkov fight, still, if he gets too comfortable he may be found out.

A previous poster has mentioned his how he rarely over reaches and doesn't fall in. In the Glazkov fight he didn't, but in the other fights I've seen of him he was throwing himself off balance with stupid wide hooks. Has he vastly improved? It's possible, but that'll be a hard trait to completely separate himself from.

Can be guilty of loading up and telegraphing his punches.

Conclusion: I think Joshua takes him out, after a cagey opener Martin will leave himself open, either with a lazy jab, a wide hook or a low guard. That said, if he takes Joshua to the later rounds, where Martin has been before and Joshua has not, then I think Martin breaks him up. I think Joshua is too muscley, he needs to feed those muscles oxygen and I don't think he can do that for 36 minutes.

 

Id like to take my hat off to welshjason here. He freely admits to knowing the square root of f all about boxing. Takes guts to admit you simply know nothing..NOTHING.. about the sport, yet welshjason here has done just that. Jason? I salute you.

 

He is better than a lot are giving him credit for. He doesn't do anything great and is pretty basic overall, but what he does do, he does solidly. Plus, and it is a big plus, the things he does do and does solidly are the basics. Whilst this will make him struggle against the elite, against lesser opponents, either in skill or experience, it could serve him well.

People are saying he is flat footed, and he does tend to stand flat footed when stationary (he is no Ali, on the ***** of his feet). However, when he needs to shift, he can. He is very good at taking a quick step back, avoiding an attack and maintaining range. His problem here, though, and it is one of the reasons why i and others have discribed him as basic, is that he just backs up. There is no lateral movement (although, to be fair, outside of Fury, most HWs lack lateral movement). Defensively, his reactions are good and this mixed with his ability to keep range and his ring IQ which is C+/B, means that he rarely gets hit clean. Obviously, level of opponent also needs to be taken into account here. His timing and counter punching are good (at least against the level of opponent he has faced). He has shown an ability to time his straight lead left as his opponent attacks and also a step back out of range then step back in with his lead left as his opponent over reaches ( like a HW Lidl Mayweather).

Offensively, as others have said, sometimes his jab is strong, other times it's pawing. His shot selection is basic but solid. Although his right hook is too long and winding for my liking. He could do with tightening it up. He mixes up body and head well, but he does have a tendency to square himself up when unloading more (i.e. opponent hurt or caught on ropes). He also leaves his chin hanging out when he throws in combination. His power is good, but i think as he steps the competition up it will prove to less impressive as say Joshua, Wilder, Wlad, etc.

Other intangibles - he seems to have a solid chin. Haven't seen him rocked, but i have only seen a handful of his fights. Plus, once again, level of opposition comes into play. He seems to have a decent enough engine and he paces himself well; doesn't put everything into every shot. This also means that he has a higher work rate than your average HW.

Ultimately, Martin will have a decent career. He knows what he can do and can't do and he sticks to that. His above average IQ, stanima and pop mixed with his flaws that i have stated should mean that he will have a Tony Thompson like career; solid, if not spectacular. In a couple of years time i would expect AJ to deal with him pretty easily, but right now, he does have the potential to cause AJ major problems and even beat him.

 

Also, if people are considering Joshua is an Olympic Gold medalist ... Literally burn that idea.

He lost handily in the opening round and nobody would ever dispute that who watched the fight.

Glazkov on the other hand is a legitimate Olympic Super Heavyweight medalist.

So Martin winning every minute of every round until Glazkov's knee popped shouldn't be discounted, neither should Martin breaking his nose with a jab in the 2nd.

Make no mistake, Martin has beaten and looked eminently comfortable beating a class of opposition Joshua has yet to face.

 

Not nearly as bad as people ae saying but he is very slow and plodding.

He's big, soutpaw and hard hitting. Lots of guys have done well with less.

 

Martin has only ever gone 10 rounds, and that was against one of the least skilled journeymen in the sport. So how you can conclude that Martin will be better off in the later rounds is beyond me. Joshua looked great in the 7th against Whyte and Whyte landed some heavy bodyshots and Joshua threw a ton of heavy punches in that fight.

Joshua is on a **** ton of drugs, EPO likely being one of them, even though he has a lot of muscles all the drugs running through his veins will counteract a lot of lactic acid build up and exhaustion. He looked absolutely knackered at one stage in the Whyte fight, then shortly after it seemed like he could run a marathon. Drugs Inc.

I agree with the rest of your ****ysis though :good