how good is Odlanier Solis?

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  1. CASH_718

    CASH_718 "You ****ed Healy?" Full Member

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    Cunningham's belt use to belong to O'Neil Bell who lost to Mormeck who lost to Haye so that makes Haye the real IBF champ. And Enzo is a ****** and doesn't want any part of Haye.
     
  2. razor

    razor Ali hater Full Member

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    That's not the whole story.
    While Haye turned pro and until recently had zero success Solís fought at the PanAms 2003. Won.
    At the Olympics 2004. Won.
    And at super heavyweight at the world championships 2005. Won.

    His first 6 opponents were much better than the first 6 opponents of Haye at cruiser.
    I think the comparison is somewhat ridiculous.
    Of course Haye is no Solís. I still kind of like him.
     
  3. rydersonthestorm

    rydersonthestorm Boxing Addict Full Member

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    His sixth opponent was knocked the **** out by nobody fraudley harrison, solis couldn't do **** to him. He is a talented guy but he is fat and he isn't a big puncher. People talk about povetkin and solis only having a few fights well they are both nearing 30 and have done noting in the pro game yet, haye is the man at cruiserweight, i wonder who has done more so far.
     
  4. Cachibatches

    Cachibatches Boxing Junkie banned

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    IF Solis' people keep fixing fights like they did against Mazikin, he could be undefeated for a long time.
     
  5. RUSKULL

    RUSKULL Loyal Member banned

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    Well done.
     
  6. razor

    razor Ali hater Full Member

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    Well, you are talking about the heavyweight division at the pros.
    Only Povetkin has done anything of note there.
    But Solis has fought very good opposition for a prospect much better than Haye had at the start of his career.
    As regards power only Haye is probably the biggest puncher of the three but as regards future as a world class heavyweight it'S 1. Povetkin, 2. (close) Solis
    3. (no shot) Haye
     
  7. rydersonthestorm

    rydersonthestorm Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Sorry but your deluded if you think solis has a better chance than haye, he is 30 pounds overweight and couldn't knock out julian long, fraudley harrison koed julian long quick in less fights than solis. Also haye is younger than both solis and povetkin and has done alot more in the pro ranks than either of them have. Number one at cruiserweight is better than winning a few fights against limited people and in regards to povetkin he has done more than solis but hasn't fought a fighter as good as mormeck yet.
     
  8. Odo

    Odo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    As you correctly stated:Haye is the man at cruiser weight.
    He isnt the man at heavy weight.His only scalp at heavy is a very limited Polish journeyman.
    Povetkin has done nothing in the pro game yet,eh? Are you on drugs,mate?
    There is no other active fighter who has been matched as bloody toughly as Povetkin up to this stage of his career.
    Solis,too,has been matched very decently so far.
    Neither Thyson nor Hollyfield nor Bowe nor any other of the present top American fighters has been matched as toughly as Povetkin,or Solis(in his first 6 pro fights).
    Haye? He hasnt prove anything at all at heavy weight so far.
     
  9. rydersonthestorm

    rydersonthestorm Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Povetkin hasn't done anything yet, got any titles no, he hasn't beaten any top fighters not yet.
    The only reason solis and povetkin are being matched up with better fighters than most heavyweights are becuase they are just starting in the pro game and they are almost 30. Haye is the youngest and is the man at cruiserweight, you have to take age into account and not just how many fights they have had.
    It's like the people who say about amir kahn fighting poor people in comparison to gamboa, when gamboa is 5/6 years older, kahn could be a world champion in a year or so and would have done that 4 or 5 years before gamboa, despite the fact gamboa might be a champion with less pro fights.
     
  10. NBT

    NBT Mοderator of Death Full Member

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    What the **** are you smoking? They are all in the same age range. Haye is the youngest alright, but only by a few months, Solis is 6 months older, Povetkin 11 months ffs.
     
  11. Odo

    Odo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Povetkin? Titles? You must be joking,mate! Damn! He has only 14 pro fights.Do you expect him to get a title shot with just 6 pro fights?
    Donald and Byrd are scalps for a fighter with 14 pro fights,dont you think so?
    Povetkin is 28 years old.And no,he hasnt matched that toughly because of his age.Money is the name of this game.Good and know fighters with a decent reputation dont fight for free.You need a powerful promoter who is ready to spend big bucks on well known foes in order to climb up the tree that fastly.Povetkin has a powerful German promoter who believes in him because of his outstanding record at the amateurs.
    Haye is younger,but that doesnt mean anything at all.He doesnt have a proven track record at heavy.And unlike Haye Povetkin wasnt floored by a cruiser weight and stopped by a limited British journeyman.
    And yes,Haye is a promising fighter.I am looking forward to watching him take on a decent heavy weight.
    One question:dont you think that your statement that Povetkin hasnt done anything at all at heavy weight carries off the prize?
    Haye? What has he done at heavy weight so far?
     
  12. rydersonthestorm

    rydersonthestorm Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Haye hasn't done anything at heavyweight yet but he is the number one cruiserweight fighter and went over to france and koed the champ in his own backyard. If you don't think that is better than beating a 50 year old larry doanld and a past it chris byrd or not being able to ko julius long ??
     
  13. rydersonthestorm

    rydersonthestorm Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Haye cruiserweight champion and is younger so he has done more in hir pro caeer so far, pretty simple when you look at it.
     
  14. Alcaldemb

    Alcaldemb Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Are you kidding? Povetkin dominated and stopped Byrd, who is arguably better than Mormeck, you're off your rocker.
     
  15. ripcity

    ripcity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think Solis is prety good for a 6-0 boxer. Is he the next great heaveyweight champion? It is hard to tell. He has an exlent amature background but that dose not all ways mean an exlent pro carrer.