How good was Davey Moore

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  1. Sister Sledge

    Sister Sledge Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Davey Moore could have had a better career had he taken a longer road to a championship title. He never learned the things he needed to have a longer career.
     
  2. Bollox

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    That's the matinee idol Bobby Czyz
     
  3. JeanPaulValley

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    Who Killed Davey Moore,why and what's the reason for?
     
  4. MAG1965

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    I should say I favored him. People rated him on the Benitez fight where he lost conclusively over 15 rounds. He should have been favored against Moore. Funny thing is I always thought Duran was great, but I knew if he had a style of fight and things in his favor Duran would win. A guy 11 fights is not going to beat Duran. Duran beat Leonard when Ray had 25 or so fights, and then Ray learned how to be outside of the ring as well as inside to fight his fight, and he learned. But Davey Moore a good fighter, still was not the fighter Leonard was obviously.
     
  5. MAG1965

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    Bobby Czyz. A good fighter decent puncher, but bad defensively. He always wanted to fight Tommy Hearns, but Hearns was too sharp a puncher for Czyz.
     
  6. Senor Pepe'

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    R/T

    As of June 1981

    WBC Champion.......Wilfred Benitez.............42-1-1 (28 KO's)
    WBA Champion.......Ayub Kalue..................36-0-0 (18 KO's)

    WBA Ratings
    #1......................Tadashi Mihara..............13-0-0 (10 KO's)
    #2......................Rocky Fratto.................24-0-0 (9 KO's)
    #3......................Maurice Hope................30-3-1 (24 KO's)
    #4......................Carlos de Valle Herrera....39-5-0 (25 KO's)
    #5......................Tony Ayala Jr................11-0-0 (10 KO's)
    #6......................Charlie Weir..................25-2-0 (22 KO's)
    #7......................Roberto Duran...............72-2-0 (56 KO's)
    #8......................Gary Guiden..................34-5-0 (30 KO's)
    #9......................Walter Gomez................43-4-2 (28 KO's)
    #10....................Rocky Mosley Jr..............33-7-1 (13 KO's)
    #11....................Davey Moore...................6-0-0 (3 KO's)

    Tadashi Mihara was ranked #1, strictly based upon him being the OPBF Light-Middleweight Champion.

    Rocky Fratto, moved up the #2 WBA ranked position, by way of his April 25, 1981 win (W Dec 12) over
    NABF Light-Middleweight Champion - Rocky Mosley Jr. 33-6-1 (13 KO's). Mosley Jr. had been the #2 WBA ranked
    challenger, prior to his loss to Rocky Fratto.

    Davey Moore, was ranked #11, based upon his knockout (KO 1) over the #10 WBA-ranked Joszef Nsubuga 23-2-0 (12 KO's)
    on May 23, 1981.
     
  7. Bollox

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    I saw Czyz KO Slobodan Kacar in the 80's to win the IBF 175? title. Didn't think too much of his performance to be honest
     
  8. Senor Pepe'

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    ETM,,

    Correct, the 32 year-old Roberto Duran was a 5-2 'underdog'.
     
  9. ripcity

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    Despite the odds he was put in against Duran too early. Odds are set for the casino/sports book to make money.
    He could have used more seasoning. Anytime you can stop Benitez in 2 rounds. You've done something right. However Benitez had by than seen better days.
    While Moore had a lot of potential. I think his winning a championship so early in his career was more of a case of being in the right place at the right time, than anything else. I think with or without the loss to Duran he'd have lost to Buster Drayton, Lupe Aquino and John David Jackson.
     
  10. Jacquot

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    You should read the Ring Mag website article about Czyz and that night. Bobby is still in love with himself all of those years late.r


    I think Davey Moore would have been a good top 10 Jr. Middle who was fun to watch regardless of the Duran fight. But that fight certainly didn't do him any favors. He could be busted up and out boxed, but he sure punched hard. I would have loved to have seen him fight John Mugabi or Julian Jackson.
     
  11. salsanchezfan

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    Well, he stopped Benitez after Duran; I get what you're saying though. It was a glossy win on paper, but Benitez had had it by then. Besides, the circumstances of that TKO aren't what they seem on paper. When Moore knocked him down early, Benitez (so the story goes) broke his ankle, or at least hurt it to the point that he couldn't move around the ring, so he just anchored himself against the turnbuckle and let Moore flail away at him, prompting the stoppage. It wasn't really that he was horribly incapacitated by punches or anything.
     
  12. MMJoe

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    He did a lot better than Leon Spinks did. Leon had good Amateur credentials when he won the title in his 8th pro fight. he just sputtered into bolivian after that.
     
  13. salsanchezfan

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    :lol: Yeah, I remember seeing photos of him smugly holding a Mensa book or something, to let everyone know what a true Rennaisance Man he was. What a douche.
     
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  14. Senor Pepe'

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    Lets not forget that Roberto had 'not' been 'super impressive' before that June 1983 bout.

    The New York Newspapers were stating that the fight would be a 'borderline' mismatch,
    as a 32 year-old Duran would be 'mauled' by the vicious hitting 'Bronxite' Davey Moore.

    Plus, a $1,000,000 fight purse for Davey Moore helped too.
     
  15. john garfield

    john garfield Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    When i see the name Davey Moore, I think of the great featherweight champion first.