How good were the white hopes?

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  1. OLD FOGEY

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  2. Mendoza

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  3. TBooze

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    But that is not irony... ;)
     
  4. mattdonnellon

    mattdonnellon Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    McCarty was pretty good based on his record, only a fool would dismiss his potential. The Palzar win which cemented his status would ultimatedly prove to be unflattering as Al imploded. Pelkey was'nt much either and Flynn was losing a lot at this time. Moran too lost a lot to weak opposition so while great credit is due to the inexperienced and youthful Luther, he had not in truth achieved a lot and we can only speculate as to what he might have achieved.
     
  5. Bummy Davis

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    I read many storys of Luther McCarthy and how good he was, he had size 6"4 and was a well built man, but the day before the fight he fell off a horse and hit his head hard, it only took a glancing punch to kill him and when he layed there in the ring a ray of light shone directley on MarCarthy's lifeless torso....Erie...I guess the powers that be had other plans
     
  6. janitor

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    He won the white heavyweight title verry early in his career. I think he would only have got better from there and bigger too. Hard to say how far he would have gone but he had already established himself as a future title challenger when he died and done as much asw the other white hopes did in their entire careers.

    Incidentaly I think Pelkey was going places if he hadnt killed McCarthy. They kind of canceled each other out.
     
  7. RoccoMarciano

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    Do you have any articles on McCarthy, Janitor?
     
  8. janitor

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    This article by Tracy Callis gives one perspective

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  9. Mendoza

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    I have a good one on McCarty. The article Janitor posted indicates Smith would have defeated McCarty.

     
  10. amhlilhaus

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    I read the article, and while the author has passion, I was disappointed he didn't discuss anything about the hopes, he only mentioned a couple by name and seems to act like he could have gotten in the ring and beaten all the white hopes.
     
  11. janitor

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    As he probably would.

    McCarthy wasnt ready for Smith yet.

    But is you look at the length of his career and how much he did in it it is special.
     
  12. Ringrat

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    I helped Tracy with that article. Smith wanted to fight McCarty, but Billy McCarney was not interested yet. He was talking to Jack Johnson's people and he wanted a bigger cut than Jack was willing to concede. Then tragedy struck in Tommy Burns' Arena in Calgary.
     
  13. Mendoza

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    Here is a decent read on Luther McCarty. Can you read it Ring Rat?

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  14. mattdonnellon

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    A nice informative piece. It doesn't however tell us much about McCartys standing as a white hope except that he hammered Morris, considered quite a feat at the time but subsequently devalued as Morris proved not to be very much.
     
  15. Mendoza

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    Thanks. I have a special read on McCarty that needs to be re-formated before I post it.

    Here's another question on the " white hopes ". Could McCarty, GunBoat Smith, Jack Dillion or Kid McCoy been champion in any other era?

    I think so. The early 1930's come to mind.
     


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