How legit is the heavyweight title before Johnson?

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  1. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    Not relay, because these fights couldn't have been made anywhere close to Sullivan's prime.
     
  2. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Sullivan was essentially retired when Jackson came on the scene. He had suffered a badly broken arm, at least one alcohol related coma and was paralyzed and given up for dead with typhus (or just as likely alcohol-induced sickness)...
     
  3. mr. magoo

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    I won't speak on all of them.. But boxing was far less organized when Sullivan was champion. The heavyweight title was a new concept after all, and guidelines which determined who was the best challenger around weren't entirely clear. He could have faced Peter Jackson and perhaps a few others, but again, the sport was in its embryonic phase.
     
  4. janitor

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    If we are talking about fighters who were active anywhere close to Sullivan's prime, I would say that McCaffrey was the best gloved challenger available, and Killrain was the best bare knuckle challenger available.
     
  5. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    Sullivan is deeply in question from 1886 on ... Corbett was able to demand terms and then fought an injured Jackson , never giving him a rematch. We have no clue on Jeffries as he refused to fight Johnson, a huge mistake on his part that got him big later. It goes on and on.
     
  6. janitor

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    I really don't think either of these matter that much.

    Even if we assume the worst case scenarios, their respective title reigns would have been shortened by about a year.