How many fighters in history....

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  1. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Panama Al Brown perhaps....
     
  2. Dave's Top Ten

    Dave's Top Ten Active Member Full Member

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    I mean technically it was KD, as the referee called it, but as everyone knows (well I thought) it was never a KD, so I thought I'd overlook it (gotta disagree with you, it was never a KD).

    Not sure if this is true or not, but Hagler claims he got the decision reversed. Interesting..
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  3. the cobra

    the cobra Awesomeizationism! Full Member

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    Was Jofre ever on the canvas?


    Edit: He was, Jose Smecca scored a KD against him.
     
  4. bladerunner

    bladerunner El Intocable Full Member

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    Laporte was never stopped but i dont know if he was ever down.
     
  5. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The Zack attack (Padilla), made Laporte retire in 10.
     
  6. Jear

    Jear Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Tua??? Hardly still active. Rahman II wasnt called a KD
     
  7. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I saw Tua get floored and stopped by Savon....
     
  8. PhillyPhan69

    PhillyPhan69 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Joltin Jeff Chandler was not KD'd untill his final fight. nearly a year after being diagnosed with cataracts and advised not to fight again...barring that poor decision he would fit in here.
     
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    scartissue Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think 3 times. Zovek Barajas in their first fight, which was a draw. The 1st round of the 1st Armando Muniz fight and of course the 10 rounder against Roberto Duran.

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    scartissue Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think Jose Legra had him down also in their title fight.

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  11. scartissue

    scartissue Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Thinking of all the great jaws in boxing and who was neither stopped or dropped is a bit daunting. Chuvalo was never dropped but was stopped twice by Frazier and Foreman. Henry Clark was never dropped but was stopped on his feet by Liston, Norton and Shavers. Kid Gavilan was never stopped but was dropped twice in his career by Ike Williams and Basilio. Likewise Ismael Laguna. Never stopped but dropped several times in his career. It is hard to nail down both aspects here as one can see. BTW, LaMotta was dropped and stopped by Danny Nardico if anyone is interested. There were a couple of lightweights in the late 60s and early 70s who amazed me by the name of Felipe Torres and Raul Montoya. Both of them pure rock jaws. However, a bit of research yields that, although they fought anyone and everyone, Torres got dropped twice (never stopped) by Sho Saiyjo and curiously against Montoya. And Montoya was dropped once and was retired on his stool in the same fight by Dwight Hawkins. I haven't done much research on Billy Graham. He may have the goods, neither dropped or stopped. However, I have another one. A guy who fought absolutely everyone and was never dropped or stopped. I give you Hector Camacho.

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  12. Bummy Davis

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    Joey Archer went almost to his knee in 2 fights, Holly Mims and Hurican Carter but did not hit the deck won both fights and was never stopped
     
  13. Sam Dixon

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    I'm not sure of the validity of it considering the source, but in his later years, Battling Battalino claimed he knocked Panama Al down during their meeting in 1929;


    "Then after that they matched me with the Bantamweight Champion of the World, Al Brown, a big six-footer. Like Mutt n' Jeff, him and I. They had to guarantee him five thousand dollars to come here. That night he got five thousand dollars, I got forty-two hundred, and I went out there and, bing, I had him on the floor and I beat him. I don't like to brag but for a little guy I had a lot of zip in me, a lot of spring in me. I leaped up and hit him a left hook on the chin, down he went. He sprawled right out. He wanted to get up and he didn't want to get up. Finally, he got up. He was too smart for me. He was bantamweight champ. He was a hell of a fighter, a great fighter. Not many fighters that could put him down."

    - said Battalino during a 1970 interview with Peter Heller


    Perhaps someone could confirm or deny with a more neutral source, and one closer to the time of the actual fight?
     
  14. Dave's Top Ten

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    Nice one Scartissue. Camacho...never dropped? Yeah I guess he fits in, who would have thought? Although detractors of Camacho would point out that that may be because he ran away from a lot of his opponents. but so what I guess?
     
  15. TonyCamonte

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    Didn“t De La Hoya drop Camacho?

    What about Pancho Villa?