Agreed! I rate Clay fairly high, believe it or not. I'm still not at all sure he was "the greatest" HW of all time as he liked to proclaim.
7-2-2 I would favor him over all of them except Liston and Foreman who seem to be all wrong for him...and louis and Holmes I would call 50/50...i could possibly put Holyfield 50/50 as well, but not the rest of em'...Smokin' Joe still under rated after all these years!
Frazier... he only beat him twice, in my opinion Tyson and Marciano would have both given him worlds of hurt/trouble.
Louis....and that about exhausts my store. In any event, Frazier already beat Ali when both were quite close to their best, so FOTC would be representative of how a fight would go prime-for-prime. Thus... Louis - Louis Marciano - Frazier Liston - Liston Ali - Frazier Foreman - Foreman Holmes - Frazier Holyfield - Frazier Lewis - Lewis Tyson - Tyson Bowe - Frazier Vitali - Frazier
:rofl How does Frazier have a better resume than Ali. Frazier's 5 best wins: 1971 Muhammad Ali 1970 Jimmy Ellis 1969 Jerry Quarry 1968 Buster Mathis 1968 Oscar Bonavena Ali's 5 best wins: 1974 George Foreman 1964 Sonny Liston 1974 Joe Frazier 1975 Joe Frazier 1973 Ken Norton No comparison.:yep
Louis' resume pales in comparison to Ali's. Ali's 5 best wins: 1974 George Foreman 1964 Sonny Liston 1974 Joe Frazier 1975 Joe Frazier 1973 Ken Norton Louis' 5 best wins: 1948 Jersey Joe Walcott 1941 Billy Conn 1938 Max Schmeling 1935 Max Baer 1935 Primo Carnera It's a slaughter!:yep
Only because you consider the 70's to be superior to the 40's from the outset. That, and the fact that you're comparing only top 5's rather than total volume and similar accomplishments (length and dominance of reign, for instance).