how much evidence is there pacquiao was weakened by blood testing?

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  1. PNoyFightFanUSN

    PNoyFightFanUSN Larry Don't Give a **** Full Member

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    careful. M. Night Shyamalan might steal your idea now. He'll get ahold of the rights to Back to the Future and this'll be the plot for whatever shenanigans Doc Brown is up to in number 4.
     
  2. spud1

    spud1 HAWK TIME!!!! Full Member

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    ejaculation does cause weakness for a time, this is why boxers go without it for a number of weeks before a fight. rocky marciano is known to have not even had sex with his wife while he was boxing until he retired.

    ejaculation takes the life force out of you and this is why u feel tired and legs do the ali shuffle when you bust a nut.

    on the other hand after a while it comes back

    blood like sperm will also come bacl after a number of hours, but blood does not weaken you in anyway, at least not the amount that is taken when used for testing. as it can be as bi as 2 tea spoons
     
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    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yes and no. No in the sense that the circumstances surrounding that BS are COMPLETELY different so don't even apply. Yes in the sense that it is nonsensical to compare that to today's situation.

    -- He even stated here he had NO PROBLEM giving blood and returning to training. The issue was when he was CUTTING before the weigh in!
    -- He is fighting well over a weight he needs to cut to. So "I didn't eat/drink" doesn't even apply.
    -- Nobody is going to be testing him two days before the fight. They could, but they won't.


    So it was maybe understandable 5 years ago, but it doesn't apply today. You fools grab blood and weakened and then make these huge mental leaps.

    What is next? It rained and frogs appeared. Rain must make frogs?
     
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    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    What does Roger have to do with anything? He isn't the manager or FMJ.

    So why exactly did you bring him up?
     
  5. spud1

    spud1 HAWK TIME!!!! Full Member

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    lmao did he really blame his damn socks and the boxing gloves?

    the blood is bad enough, everyone knows that they dont take enough to weaken you
     
  6. LukeO

    LukeO Erik Morales is God Full Member

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    Any PED that manny pacquiao could be on to provide any sort of enhancement for a boxer is detectable or the symptoms are BY URINE.

    He said he would give an unlimited amount anytime they wanted. If something was up they would be able to see it in his urine, then test his blood for the actual drug.

    It's completely nonsensical to assume that there is any actual reason for this random BLOOD up until the day of the fight when they didn't even test the 18 days prior to the mosley fight. (I know we only know that now)

    The people crying "blood tests!" are the ones who either stand to make a lot of money if it gets standardized and implemented, and the scam artists like conte who are trying to lure boxers into his program.

    The NSAC even ruled on it, with experts, that urine was sufficient.

    All this blood talk even still existing is an absolute joke and a farce.
     
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    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Especially when you are "force feeding" just to stay at weight.

    This crap is preposterous!
     
  8. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    Yeah dude...Where have you been??

    After the Marquez I fight, he said the reason he did so poorly was because of his socks...They weren't the soft ones. :lol:

    Immediately after the Morales I fight he agreed with Merchant that the reason he couldn't beat Morales was because he couldn't use his favorite gloves. :yep

    That fool doesn't like giving fighters that beat him credit.
     
  9. LukeO

    LukeO Erik Morales is God Full Member

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    You guys keep chanting "Random blood! Random blood!" without even knowing why.

    It's like you have a feed into your computer from mayweather to keep reminding you guys to just keep demanding random blood.

    It's not necessary except for keeping track of red blood cells over a long period of time for comparison.


    All of this **** was explained to all of you floyd fans during the debacle and now here we are in July, and you're still chanting "random blood! Why no random blood?"

    It's a straw man that means nothing.




    If floyd fights it's because he is mentally ready to take on manny pacquiao. All the other noise being created is just arguing points for fans.

    Only floyd knows if he will take the fight. This 14-24 day whatever garbage is irrelevant.

    Floyd has to either sign the contract or make an excuse... the clock is ticking.
     
  10. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Says Luke the college student that isn't even in a health field.

    That isn't what was asked for so why didn't he just turn down the fight? USADA testing or no fight. Why not just say no?

    What? Do you even take what you say seriously? So now the ENTIRE Olympic testing program is a sham? And you know this how?

    The same NSAC that is tanked if it comes out that they were doing a crap job catching cheats with their drug testing program? Funny how you acknowledge conflicts of interest on one side, but not the other.

    Right. A joke and farce that has been perpetrated on International Athletes all over the world? Do you know how silly you sound?

    Luke you have no honor.
     
  11. port64 jr

    port64 jr Active Member Full Member

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    no just his trainer, so when roach says that blood effects his fighter and tealks about the morales fight, you can then get evidence on a side meth to prove pacquiao is bulletproof, depite his face being ****ed up by clottey
     
  12. Rudyard

    Rudyard **** How You Feel!! HOE! banned

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    His excuses ranks up there with Roy Jones...The most lamest excuses a boxer could make!:rofl:lol:
     
  13. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    This moron says, "its not necessary except for...". Do you not see how stupid you just made yourself look? If there is an exception there is a valid reason.

    USADA testing is the best testing protocol in the states. Only a cheater would be against it. Especially if it mean cashing in on the biggest fight in history.
     
  14. LukeO

    LukeO Erik Morales is God Full Member

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    Why would I feel stupid?

    I seem to be the only guy who paid attention to what was going on.

    You guys are still on here arguing about the random blood tests and you don't even know what for.

    Name 2 performance enhancers that do not affect the dead blood found in urine and are only found in blood.

    In fact.... name 1.

    Don't worry, i'll wait.
     
  15. LukeO

    LukeO Erik Morales is God Full Member

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    And if the argument is Manny moving through the weight classes and being on HGH to do it, please provide examples of how that drug is found in someone's system.