How old is Luis Ortiz?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Perkin Warbeck, Nov 20, 2019.


HOW OLD IS LUIS ORTIZ, REALLY?

Poll closed Aug 16, 2022.
  1. AGE 40

    17.3%
  2. IN HIS 40s

    38.2%
  3. AGE 50

    10.0%
  4. IN HIS 50s

    13.6%
  5. IN HIS 60s

    3.6%
  6. IN HIS 70s

    3.6%
  7. OLD AS METHUSALEH

    13.6%
  1. smallsteps

    smallsteps Member Full Member

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    He might be Sonny Listons father
     
  2. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Since Ortiz wasn't born yet, and television transmissions from outside Cuba were blocked by the Communist Cuban government in the 1970s, and Cuba didn't have closed circuit television technology at the time ...

    I'm going to say he saw it with his dad later ... likely in the early 1990s, when Ortiz was a kid, after the Soviet Union collapsed and Cuba got a little more relaxed ... and the fight was routinely reshown on international television channels.

    Ortiz saw Ali-Foreman live with his dad just like he fought Pernell Whitaker in the 1984 Olympics (which people on this board have also claimed).

    It's time to stop.
     
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  3. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Again, Cuba blocked transmissions from outside the country back then. And Cuba didn't have closed circuit technology.

    So he couldn't watch Ali fight live ... even if he was alive ... unless they somehow left Cuba and paid for a closed circuit ticket in a country that was showing it ... and then returned to Cuba without anyone noticing.

    He likely saw rebroadcasts of Ali's fights in the early 1990s when he was a kid and they began to routinely be rebroadcast on television ... because his age has been consistent since he's been on the boxing scene for almost 20 years.

    That's what all this nonsense is based on? Because one of your "sources" told you Ortiz "told them" he watched Ali fight Live when he was little? (LOL) Christ.

    Did your source live in Communist Cuba in the 1970s? It's not like they could flip on the television and catch the latest Hollywood movie on Netflix.
     
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  4. reckless

    reckless Active Member Full Member

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    He probably is 40 or early 40s. Wlad had similar wrinkly skin when he fought Joshua at 41.
     
  5. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Thanks. I'm sure it was a mistake. The mods around here like to ban all Wilder fans before any Wilder, Fury or Joshua fight ... seems to be a pattern.
     
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  6. rinsj

    rinsj Active Member Full Member

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    If he's older than George was at 45 when he beat Moorer then it is significant to verify his true age. He must have family members alive, classmates in Cuba and some government documentation originating from his homeland which can settle this debate once and for all.
     
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  7. marting

    marting Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I don't care how old he is, he's still better than 99%+ than the rest of them.
     
  8. ArseBandit

    ArseBandit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ortiz has had that skin for years. I reckon mid 40s. 44?
     
  9. reckless

    reckless Active Member Full Member

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    He's also been fat all those years. This is the first time he's been lean. Just like Wlad at 41 who had a six pack but sagging skin.

    Briggs is late 40s but doesnt have that skin. It's hard to say.
     
  10. Marco904

    Marco904 Member Full Member

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    That's a sweeping statement against all Cubans. You're evidence of this is....?
     
  11. Marco904

    Marco904 Member Full Member

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    IF Ortiz really is 45+ (I doubt it), then if he beats Wilder and becomes World Champ, we'll hear about it soon enough as I'm sure he's want to beat Foreman's record.
    I'm 40 but regularly get told I look 30-35. Some friends my age look 50 and could pass for 55.
    Ortiz looks pretty much 40 to me, the slightly sagging skin is easily explained by weight fluctuations and some people just have looser skin and/or wrinkle more quickly anyway.
    Unless there's some actual evidence or real reason to believe he's older, I can't see the constant obsession with this.
    And him saying he watched Ali on the TV when he was little is not evidence, may have been a rerun or documentary years later. Plenty of boxers 40 and younger have been influenced by watching Ali.
     
  12. MVC!

    MVC! The Best Ever Full Member

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    More Birther nonsense from the idiots, as per usual!
     
  13. Perkin Warbeck

    Perkin Warbeck Boxing aficionado Full Member

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    The poor old man boxed well and dominated Wilder for six rounds.

    But a man's stamina is not the same at age 50 as it is at age 35.

    The judges gave round 6 to Wilder, shows how dishonest they are. Ortiz won EVERY round until he collapsed from a weak punch due to his advanced age.