How would Archie Moore do in the late 60s to mid 70s

The fact that crouching Archie Moore was the #1 heavyweight contender for a time in the 1950s while in his 40s just shows how bad the division was at that time.

Currently, Beterbiev isn't the #1 heavyweight contender. And this current crop of rising heavies isn't stellar.

Moore doesn't do nearly as well in any other modern era at heavyweight from the 1960s on.

Moore was in the right place at the right time when he was a top contender at heavy. And even scrawny Floyd Patterson completely wiped him out when Marciano retired.

Things were never going to get easier after that.

 

Yeah no way a career cruiser like Usyk could compete with bigger men.

 

Beats all of them except Ali, Foreman, Frazier & Norton.

 

How does Usyk fight like Archie Moore?

When did Usyk get wasted in five rounds by a 182-pound 21-year-old.

Old, crouching, bent over, slow-footed Archie Moore couldn't get past Patterson.

You got people here saying he's going to beat everyone but Foreman, Frazier, and Ali?

Whatever man.

 

I didn't say anything about Marciano.

I'm downplaying Moore's chances against anyone of note after the 1950s.

Hell, when he was the #1 contender, Moore couldn't get past Floyd Patterson in 1956. Got destroyed in five rounds.

Floyd wasn't exactly dominant in the 60s and 70s himself. And Moore wasn't better than Floyd.

 

I think there would be periods where he’d definitely crack the top ten and even get some good wins. The late sixties-early 70s saw Jimmy Ellis as a world champion and an aged Floyd Patterson as a contender. As long as the version of Moore were using isn’t ancient ( like against Ali ) and in good shape then I believe he doesn’t well

 

There's some underrated boxers in the late 60s through to mid 70s if we ignore Ali, Foreman, Frazier and Norton. It's a much deeper era than the 40s/50s

Let's start with Patterson who dominated Archie, he was past his prime but still at a very good level. Then look at these fellas better wins:

Jimmy Ellis - Quarry, Patterson, Bonavena, Martin (fresh off Liston win), Chuvalo

Quarry - Patterson, Lyles, Shavers, Mac Foster, Buster Matthis

Then you have Shavers decimating Norton, Ellis and Young with a good Bugner win - you really want to bet money on a LHW withstanding Shavers onslaught?

Then you have Jimmy Young who was arguably the best pure boxer of the 70s, Lyle who was a physical monster, Bonavena who gave Frazier hell while picking up some top wins, old Liston, Terrell, Chuvalo, older versions of Machen, Doug Jones, Folley. Bugner and Cooper were no sloaches either.

Tell me now you'd be happy betting your life savings on Archie beating any of them, sure he'd beat some of the I imagine, but he'd lose a fair share.

He already got dominated by a 21yo Patterson.

 

Archie Moore was 39 when he won the light heavyweight title. If he was 39 in 1966, as was set up in your original scenario, he was still going to be 15 to almost 20 years older than the top heavyweights of the late 60s and 70s.

Joe Frazier was 24 in 1966. Muhammad Ali was 24. Jimmy Ellis was 26. Jerry Quarry was 21. George Foreman (who hadn't turned pro yet) was 17. By the time of the 1967 heavyweight tournament, Moore would've been 40.

I don't think you thought this through. He was old when he won the light heavyweight title. But the heavyweight division was awful during the early 50s (it just was), so he could go back and forth between 175 and heavyweight.

By 1956, Moore wasn't remotely as good as a 21-year-old Floyd Patterson.

A 40-year-old-plus Archie Moore wasn't going to accomplish anything in the heavyweight division of the late 60s and 70s. The days of top light heavyweights also being top heavyweight contenders was over.

Ali didn't defend his title against Dick Tiger in the 1960s. George Foreman and Ali didn't defend against John Conteh or Victor Galindez. Joe Frazier used the dominant 175-pound champ as a tuneup, and treated him as such. Foster lasted about four minutes before getting plastered.

 

How do you reckon a 46-50 year old Usyk would fare against Floyd Patterson?