How would you determine Wilder's prime?

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  1. Oakland Billy Smith

    Oakland Billy Smith Active Member banned Full Member

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    I believe we are in it now, though we won't really know till the end of his career.
    I feel like his prime started with the domolition of Breazelle. May be a fight or two before that.

    Some things to consider:
    Wilders already 34 or 35, however he got a bit of a late start, and that's not too old for a HW.
    Wilder is a one trick pony. He will never be the all around technician the haters say he has to be....but he has greatly perfected his one trick, so much that he is capable of ending a fight in Amy round, even if hes losing on all the scorecards.

    The Fury rematch will answer many questions about Wilders place among the current HWs. And he still needs that Joshua fight . His resume is fine, but he must get in there with the other 2 best guys of his era in order to maintain a long lasting legacy.

    Unfortunately for Wilder, a bad loss will be hard to overcome. When you build your rep as a KO king it's just never the same after you come back from a KO loss or bad beating. Its kind of not fair, but that's just the way it is
     
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    LoadedGlove Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I guess we'll have to see him in a fight to be able to judge that won't we ? The Fury rematch followed by Whyte and or Joshua then maybe we'll be able to say how good he is / was.
     
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  3. CJH

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    I think he is in his prime now, it cant be argued that 2019 was his most impressive year. The 2 KOs he delivered were extremely devastating.

    I also favour him (slightly) over Fury in the rematch. So for me he is prime now and maybe for the next 2 years.
    By the time he fights AJ/Whyte/Usyk, he may be past prime and they may be enetering theirs.

    Youve also got to consider the younger crop coming through who will be a big threat.

    The issue for Wilder is largely his "prime" wont be remembered, he is already 34 and his resume is quite frankly terrible, hes missed the opportunities to fight some of the real challenges around him, whilst Prime.

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  4. Malph

    Malph Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It's not to late for him if he gets on it now. If he brutally KOs Fury, that makes a statement.

    But I agree he doesnt have time to waste.

    A fight with Ruiz, a former title holder would be an interesting fight. If he brutally KOs Ruiz, which I think he would, that would also make a statement.

    Of course, if Fury beats him, it's back to the drawing board.
     
  5. UniversalPart

    UniversalPart Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Different type of power. Foreman had a dull and thudding punch that did not diminsh with it. It did not rely on explosive twitch muscles unlike Wilder.

    Wilder is also 35 years old this year. Another few years and he will be going into "getting old and past his best" territory.
     
  6. Hanz Cholo

    Hanz Cholo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yeah i see what your saying on that , except when George knocked out Michael Moore at 40 years old.
    It was off a counter one shot walked him into it blast.
    I can see wilder doing something like that if he really refined his game.
    max 3 years left.
    Time will tell
     
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  7. destruction

    destruction Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Like every other male human being who has ever fought at HW, he will start to slide significantly at aged 37/38 onwards.

    That is the biological age we know when HWs are markedly declined.

    The only exception to this was George Foreman in his so called "second career". Exceptions are not the rule though.

    Wilder relies on reflexes completely to avoid punches and physical speed to deliver them. Fighters like that age terribly. So I would predict Wilder starts to fall off before aged 37/38.
     
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  8. JDub

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    Probably in his prime now, will start declining in around 2 years.
     
  9. Lesion of Doom

    Lesion of Doom Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He's already lost some speed, but I consider him prime because he has improved his stalking style enough to compensate for it. He probably safely has 2020 and maybe 2021 in his current form, but that's it. He needs to get on with the biggest fights he can make.

    If he wins, it needs to be Joshua. Even if he loses, I'd rather see him against Whyte or Ruiz than Fury III.
     
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    Hes a hard fighter to guage... I wont know where hes at until after the Fury fight.
     
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  11. Mr Icaman

    Mr Icaman 32-0 WBC Champ, Ring + Lineal HW Champ Full Member

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    He might keep his power but he will lose his reflexes and speed so others will be able to tag him easier and avoid his power..
     
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  12. eltirado

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    At Cruiserweight (Wilder natural weight) he will be a deadly KO artist well into his 60s, at heavyweight he will have a hard time landing those punches as he ages, but it will be balanced off with ring wisdom & accumulated experience
     
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