Would you care to address the actual points I've raised in my 2 posts on this thread, or is the only answer you have to call me a "clown"? The fact that you've chosen the option of name calling tells me a lot about your level of intellect and your (in)ability to enter and maintain a reasoned discussion - as you've demonstrated in most of your posts. Read the posts and interpret them correctly. It's interesting you say "we should stop comparing them" (Ali & Frazier) - I haven't compared them - you have, simply by starting the 2 threads you've started on them. As I said in my earlier post, your whole MO is to promote Ali & denigrate Frazier, it's "dick-measuring" of the most juvenile kind.
You compared Ali trolling in a porn magazine, to the Nazi Propaganda that led to a murder of millions of people. Ali always said crazy stuff, but always with a smile. You knew he was never serious. At that time, the people who read that also knew. Frazier is a drunk wife beater FACT Frazier was terrible to his kids FACT Frazier did drugs FACT Frazier was a jealous old fool FACT.
Shavers was a better journeyman than Mike Weaver . ez far ez im koncernd, hi autdid him vs bows Holmes & Tillis, despait bi'ing older. He destroyed Ken Norton, Jimmy Young, Jimmy Ellis. Almost stopt d Ron Lyle det olmost stopt George Foreman. Probably dezervd e draw wiz Ali, if not e win. Probably dizervd e win over e mach younger James Tillis wum probably dizervd e win over Mike Weaver. Most probably won hiz rimach vs Jimmy Young ez wel. Norton & Ellis wer eijd wen Shavers destroyed dem , bat Young woz not. Hi olso destroyd Joe Bugner 4 wot its wors. Only on peiper woz it dyu 2 cats Frazier only stopt Quarry, Stander & Chuvalo due 2 cuts& facial demej, a clue about serial cheating 4 mi. Iven if hi did not chit, feishl dmj daz not ikw8 konkusiv demolishen.
Ali was trolling was he? That's a convenient excuse for a sycophant like you to hide behind - it doesn't suit your agenda. He did not say things "always with a smile" - check out his interviews in the 70s with Parkinson, Ali was truly full of hatred, he came across as extremely unpleasant, it was not an act. Regarding Frazier, at the risk of repeating myself, you highlight what you claim as his flaws to denigrate him, but choose to gloss over what appear to most people to be Ali's flaws because it suits your own pro-Ali, anti-Frazier agenda. Regarding the above on Frazier - all "FACTS" ??? I could ask for proof but you know what, I can't be bothered. As I said before your pro-Ali, anti-Frazier agenda is dick measuring of the most juvenile kind. You come across as far too immature, intransigent and inflexible to even consider an alternative viewpoint to your set-in-stone opinions. I have wasted too much time on this with you already, time I can't get back. I can't be bothered to continue this "debate" with you anymore...
Maybe Ali should **** in your mouth, cos you certainly manage to expel a lot of excrement from it. Ali spouted the doctrine of the NOI chapter and verse, that isn't merely a case of him trolling in a porn mag. He went on chat shows spewing out the hatred and venom of the NOI, and was ridiculed because he basically didn't properly understand it. Which is how people worked out he was merely parroting the views of the more extreme elements of that groups religious beliefs. As stated all he had to do was keep his mouth shut, because a lot of people had sympathy for him due to the fact that he was strippped of his livelihood, but much like you, he mouthed off about things he simply didn't understand. The answer to racism, isn't more racism, and that was what he and the NOI were preaching, at that time.
Ali seems not only to embody the best and worst of humanity in real life, but he certainly brings out the best and worst of posters on the internet, no?
More to the point have you any idea how hilarious it is when the likes of you try to come across as professorial, and just don't know what you are talking about. The Hitler started WW2 as a direct result of the Versailles Treaty is priceless. Keep it up, I am enjoying the fun.