I find it hard to split HAGLER & ARGUELLO !

Duran's prime was from 72-78. Everyone knows that. He's not even a welterweight! Is it any wonder he became a win one lose one type of fighter?

But he still beat Leonard and jumped two divisions to do it. :good

That means even in his prime he was never that good; he just made you think that by knocking off Price and Green-two past their prime contenders.

Even Camacho beat him with relative ease, even knocking him out in the process. it's not like Hector was 22 and Ray was 40. :nono

Both were in the same age group and Hector's just a little guy-130 pounds, which means prime on prime, with both fighters welter, Hector beats him any day, everyday!

It's a no brainer!


All that hand and foot speed possessed by Hector. Sugar ray would never be able to handle it...and he didn't :yep

Please dont be a poor sport downplaying the Camacho win. Just accept it :good

We all know what was being said by his critics: that he never lived up to his potential, that he didnt live up to expectations.

I will say this, being much the smaller of the two, Hector lived up to his expectations by winning the fight. And while he was at it, he disspelled another myth-the myth that Ray leonard could not be knocked out :yep

Ray's never been able to handle speed otherwise he would have stayed active throughout the 80s instead of getting a Doctor's note to participate in the 1980s remedial boxing program that included knockoffs of hagler, Duran, Hearns and someone named lalonde.

The instant his management finally came up with the courage to put their protected fighter in against someone of speed and youth like the the immensely talented, immensely trigger fisted Norris, it would be no contest just like i always said.

All that experience and all those names on his resume. Such an impressive reputation-only to be undone by one left hook to the jaw.

This is why I tell everyone a sturdy jaw is soooooo important!

Even in his better days he couldnt impress. Hearns boxed his ears off because as I been saying, Ray Leonard is just a runner, a runner who can only impress against old men but never fighters young and mobile-Nunn, Norris, those types.

Hagler was much more effective in that area of boxing as we saw in the Hearns fight.

Greatest fight of all time. Greatest performance of all time.

That was what you would call applying EFFECTIVE pressure. With Leonard it was all about throwing haymakers hoping to get lucky against his more mobile opponent. In the words of the famous Angelo Dundee, "YOU'RE BLOWING IT SON!!"

That's not even boxing!

Like i said, Leonard wasnt that good