I find it hilarious that people think Taylor can have success at SMW.

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  1. BITCH ASS

    BITCH ASS "Too Fast" Full Member

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    That's it.

    You need to go to time out.
     
  2. Axe

    Axe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I don't agree with your extreme dislike for Taylor, but I do agree with the title to your thread, Taylor will not do well at 168 lbs. Even an old Calzaghe would be too much for Jermain.
     
  3. Brickhaus

    Brickhaus Packs the house Full Member

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    When Taylor was fighting the level of opponents Bute has been fighting, he was humiliating them in a way that Bute hasn't come close to doing. Bute hasn't even fought someone on the level of a Joppy (who Taylor shut out), Edouard (who Taylor KOed in 3) or Vasquez (who Taylor turned into bloody mess).

    YES, he looked bad his last couple fights against champions. Yes, his three fights in a row against top 5 P4P fighters were all close. However, best I can tell, Bute is a POOR MAN'S TAYLOR. He has the same strengths and flaws, and other than being naturally bigger, I can't think of how Bute would destroy Taylor so quickly. Fact is, Bute would be a HUGE step DOWN in competition from who he's been facing.

    Other than that, Mundine might have a chance with his speed (but he by far has the worst chin of anyone Taylor's faced since Rios, who he KOed in 1) and Berrio would have a puncher's chance (Mack, who Berrio KOed, is also a poor man's Taylor), but even Kessler is not all that different from Winky in some ways, and he did manage to pull out a draw there. Calzaghe would probably swarm Taylor as he's been too tentative lately, but other than that, he should do fairly well at SMW. It's not like he couldn't use the size, and I'm inclined to think that he's looked sluggish his last few fights in part because he's been too weight drained, so moving up actually might do him some good.

    Amsterdam, this propaganda is asinine. I'd challenge you to an avatar bet over Taylor beating anyone ranked 3 - 10 in Ring's SMW right now, but it wouldn't make a difference because even if he won by knockout you'd say the other guy was somehow robbed.
     
  4. Axe

    Axe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That said even Taylor does beat most of the top ten, the division is rather bleak after you get past the JC-MK winner.
     
  5. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    I stopped reading after you said Bute hasn't fought anyone on Edourd's level.:good
     
  6. Brickhaus

    Brickhaus Packs the house Full Member

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    Oh, and PS, Allan Green ain't beating NOBODY significant ever again. Cat had 85% of his COLON removed. He's going to be wearing a shitbag for the rest of his life, and won't be able to digest food properly. Do you really think someone can retain their strength through that? I sure as heck don't. He'll keep fighting journeymen, but all he'll be is an interesting footnote when someone hits him with a low blow and explodes his chlostomy bag.
     
  7. Brickhaus

    Brickhaus Packs the house Full Member

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    Who? The guy who won;t get past the 2nd round of The Contender, or the guy who got beat down by a guy with 3 pro fights, or the guy who got beat down by the guy who lost to someone with 3 pro fights?

    Bute hasn't fought **** yet.

    And if you can't get past the Albert comparison, then you certainly can't say Bika's on the level that Joppy or Marquez was at. Point still stands. If you want to throw red herrings at me, be my guest. I'm not the one who's been kicked off for a month making shitty predictions.
     
  8. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    I disagree, I'd even take Sakio Bika over him in a rough fight, late KO.

    Taylor ought to think about his best ways to cash out after the Pavlik bout, because he'll be at the end of line.
     
  9. Fab2333

    Fab2333 Needs to Get It 2Gether Full Member

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    Damn Blocky that s**t right there is rather ruff, damn i knn\o u aint directing that to me, but damn me readin that ? hurt my feelings and its not even 4 me. Ease up, that could damage some1 self esteem lol
     
  10. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    What a waste !

    ( unless you're launching the new Calzaghe Museum in Cardiff)
     
  11. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    Edourd is a C level fighter with a glass jaw, Bute has destroyed C levels and has a win over 1 B level in Bika.

    Here are the C level guys that Bute has dominated or wrecked:

    Thobela
    Lolenga Mock
    Andre Thysse
    Salem
    Obede Toney

    And all of them are more dangerous than Edourd to a MW-SMW. Plus, it's a matter of being able to analyse a potential bout and Taylor has no advantages over Bute, Bute is in fact a bit quicker and has less holes in his game. Bute TKO.
     
  12. Brickhaus

    Brickhaus Packs the house Full Member

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    Ignoring the rest of the post, I see? Tell me Bika's better than Joppy or Marquez with a straight face.

    And yes, I'd pick Edoaurd H2H, despite being smaller, against half the guys you named. 2002 Joppy would have shut out all 5 of those guys, and beat Bika. You sorely overrate Bika just because he won rounds against Calzaghe on what you should just be able to admit was a bad day for Joe and because he drew with Beyer (who even you admit Taylor would beat handily).
     
  13. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    A shot Joppy would have trouble with some of those guys, trust me and I doubt a shot Joppy would defeat Bika.

    I said that Taylor 'should be favoured' over Beyer, I never said he'd win handily. Beyer would definitley have a chance against Taylor.

    Edourd is a glass jawed nothing, again I repeat this. Maybe we should hype up the very average Eromosele Albert for shutting him out and stopping him? Albert is a 154 pounder by the way.

    And let's talk about Raul Marquez. A Light Middleweight no less, one of B- level quality by the time he met Taylor and you are counting him as a comparable win to Sakio Bika. Bika is a B level SMW, Marquez is a B- level LMW.

    HMMMMMM.

    Pff.
     
  14. C Money

    C Money Paul McCloskey Full Member

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    Outside of Calzaghe and kessler? Yes, taylor can have success. IMO, he'd demolish Bute who I'm less than impressed with so far.

    Now JC??? Well that's you're dream matchup mate:yep

    Ol Joe would give Jermain the lesson/ass whoopin that you long to see Taylor recieve.
     
  15. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    Bute has too much for Taylor.

    Anyway, come on now Taylor apologists, let's hear your diseased arguments for this disgrace!:yep