I have a question about Pacquiao

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  1. BENNY BLANCO

    BENNY BLANCO R.I.P. Brooklyn1550 Full Member

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    PacDbest made us all look like bitches, including me. He owned us all.
     
  2. Boom_Boom

    Boom_Boom R.I.P Boxing 6/9/12 Full Member

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    after the JMM rematch there was a sudden burst of fighters who a lot in ESB thought would beat Pacman or even be favored over him which include Juan Diaz, Casamayor and even Gamboa.
     
  3. ed7890

    ed7890 Col. Hunter Gathers Full Member

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    It really is incredible. I think thats why the steroids stories are believed so much, it just so hard to believe.
     
  4. PH|LLA

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    too good for his own good?
     
  5. Marnoff

    Marnoff Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Who exactly is questioning that Pacquiao is an All-Timer? I'm not sure what this thread is trying to say that hasn't already been said.
     
  6. gyll

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    I can say it's so easy for Pac fans to be blinded by his choir boy smile and their love for him that they lose sight of his questionable behavior. If Pac had rejected an unreasonable demand then no problem - I would have given him the benefit of the doubt. Pac's shady behavior is equivalent to a woman telling me she can't come into work due to a broken nail. If you look at his recent accomplishments, they are as stellar as Barry Bonds' 73 home runs - both amazing and suspicious at the same time. This is not about Floyd's "crackhead" father or being a "hater." It's about putting things in perspective and coming up with an intelligent assessment after considering both sides of the story.

    Pac as an ATG? Sure, I'll agree to that. But don't get your panties in a bunch if I put an asterisk next to his name. I'm not the first and I won't be the last to do such thing.
     
  7. ironchamp

    ironchamp Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think history will be kind to Manny, you'd really have to be cruel to disregard his accomplishments. Or delusional.

    Then again I'm not quite sure who would disagree with Pac's greatness.
     
  8. NeckBreaknAiken

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    With this, I agree.:good
     
  9. IsaL

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    I find it strange the his KO ratio is higher from 135-147 being at 80%, but his 5 fights previous to moving UP in weight calculate a 60% KO ratio.

    It's like he seems to have gained some kind of EXTRA unatural power after his near disaster against JMM....?
     
  10. d-mo

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    He hasn't failed any test yet!!! Part of that EXTRA went to his enormous melon. Which is completely natural BTW.
     
  11. IsaL

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    Why the **** do people still use the "He hasn't failed any test yet!!! " excuse, like it means anything...Bonds, Shane Mosley, McGwire all passed every test including LIE detector, and all are KNOWN juicers.

    The fact that he avoided random drug testing like it was the damned plague questions his integrity.


    You couple that with everything else and include the fact that his KO ration in the last five fights is 80% compared to his five previous ones before that at the LOWER weights which stands at 60%, really arises questions.
     
  12. Boom_Boom

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    its called being weight drained...you know the excuse you keep making for dlh, yeah that one
     
  13. IsaL

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    Ummm, fighters who cut a lot of weight usually have a BETTER KO ratios than when they fight at weights where they don't need to cut weight...Duh! :patsch

    Look at RJJ, Hopkins, DLH, Mayweather, Duran, Leonard, Chavez, for examples.
     
  14. d-mo

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    Lol.
    Q:Mr Moore have you ever taken drugs??
    A:I have passed every drug test I have taken. Who is Al Kahall and Mary Jo Wanna?? I do not know these people. I have never met before.
     
  15. d-mo

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    I should have included this in post #39.