I like Joshua, but everything he does seems small now compared to Fury

Top post on r/Boxing right now. Needs turning up though.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Boxing/comments/feaaky/the_best_10_seconds_of_john_fury_you_will_ever/

 

You continue to commit false equivalence fallacy! There's fat,and there's obese. Guys like Buster Douglas and Hasim Rahman, when they caused upsets, still had visible six packs and were properly built with a fighting shape.

Tyson Fury, even at his fattest, is still in fighting shape and is never totally obese like Andy Ruiz Jr.

Meanwhile. Andy Ruiz Jr is borderline filth. For anybody with as many advantages as Joshua to even lose once, especially by stoppage, to someone as disgraceful as Andy Ruiz Jr, and then even worse, fail to stop such an opponent in a rematch after getting stopped, is totally worthless and non-credible.

If you remove all the useless, non-functional weight from Andy Ruiz Jr (i.e excess body fat), and only count both Joshua'a and Ruiz's functional weights (i.e weight composed of muscles), then you'd find Joshua is not only heavier, but significantly heavier, to the point of being a weight division or two above Andy Ruiz Jr.

So no, Andy Ruiz Jr is not FUNCTIONALLY heavier and that useless, dead weight Andy Ruiz Jr carries is not an excuse for Anthony Joshua's failures. With the same body fat percentage, Joshua will be MUCH heavier.

And yes, there are kids out there who are obese and outweigh their fathers with mostly non-functional dead weight. It still wouldn't be an excuse for the father to ever be beatable by their 'heavier' obese children.

In European knockout football / soccer competitions, you have to not only WIN, but outscore your opponent to go through to the next round. This means, if your opponent beats you 2-0, you have to win by a 3 goal margin bare minimum in the rematch to go through to the next round. Winning 1-0 will be insufficient in the rematch.

And where in the rule book does it say avenging a one-sided stoppage loss via a decision win where barely any damage is inflicted makes the avenger the better fighter? It works both ways!

I don't need the rule books to teach me common sense! There are certain standards that a boxer must fulfill, and one of those standards for a champion is that with as many advantages Joshua has, he should never lose by stoppage to an obese scrub like Andy Ruiz Jr in the first place, and if he does, he MUST be able to stop that scrub more brutally in the rematch to redeem himself.

That's simply how things work here! Boxers are judged by their level of performance and not just by if they win or not, and if their performance is not up to par, then they will be criticized. Simple as that!

Joshua winning (by decision), still doesn't change the fact that he still got stopped by an obese midget scrub and has failed to redeem himself from that stoppage loss by failing to stop that scrub in the rematch. So he may have won the rematch, but he hasn't won the overall match-up as it's only 1-1 and Andy Ruiz Jr still holds the more dominant win over Joshua, meaning, Ruiz is still dominant over Joshua.

If Joshua fully used all his advantages, then he wouldn't need the judges to win. He would've used his extra muscle mass and strength to lay Andy Ruiz Jr to the canvas for the count, which he of course failed to do because he failed to use his advantages properly. So the margin of victory was not proportional to the number of advantages Joshua held.

Joshua won every round in the rematch? Well, Andy Ruiz Jr also won EVERY round in the first fight, plus dropped him multiple times, plus stopped him and plus beat him in less time.

So Joshua failed to:

1) Drop Andy Ruiz Jr in the rematch

2) Stop Andy Ruiz Jr in the rematch,

So still not as dominant as Andy Ruiz Jr's win over Joshua.


"I'm sure your belief that Joshua doesn't deserve credit or praise is really keeping him awake at night"

There are pedophiles and wife-beaters who don't feel ASHAMED for their actions. It doesn't change the fact that they are shameful individuals.

Joshua not feeling ashamed, likewise, doesn't change the fact that he is a shame and a disgrace for getting stopped by Andy Ruiz Jr, as losing to an obese, midget scrub with as many advantages as Joshua held is the very definition of shame and disgrace.

It really doesn't matter if he keeps awake at night or not, considering that stoppage loss to an obese midget still hangs around in the corner and nothing he does, is ever going to redeem that stoppage loss until he goes back in there and knocks Andy Ruiz Jr out more brutally.


"I'm sure if he does you'll find some way never to give him the proper respect he deserves regardless"

Joshua arguably lost to Joseph Parker. Remove any thoughts from your mind of Joshua ever beating the Fury that fought Wilder. It's not going to happen! Joshua has never shown anything that suggests he could ever defeat a focused Fury. Not even a puncher's chance, as Joshua's power got exposed against glass-jawed Carlos Takam who withstood all of Joshua's punching with limited effect.

 

I don't think you know what false equivalence is

Yeah, not reading that dude

 

The bodybuilder will have another stoppage loss this year, who would be better to do it than that feocious Bulgarian hooligan. Anthony KOed by a light trademark pitty pat Pulev jab.
lol