I met Al Haymon today he is Maywaethers manager and another Advisor

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  1. smoochp

    smoochp Da flyest1 Full Member

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    Thats what alot of people don't understand its not the fighter, but the team in general. I don't think to many fighters are scared to fight each other. Besides Tyson vs Spinks, becasue you team is suppose to prepare you mentally, physically, and spirtually no matter what
     
  2. Scar

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    Floyd was looking for a tune-up when he first moved up to Welterweight as he was set to fight Judah after it, a Margarito fight isn't exactly tune-up material.

    Also, Arum was planning for Floyd to fight Margarito instead of Baldomir after his fight with Judah since everyone else was already hooked with a fight to replace Judah with.
     
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    Also sometimes people want to say ****, but can't hold it in to much longer. But like I said I know what happened.
     
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    I remember watching Quite FranKly on ESPN. Floyd and Arum were on the show. I remember Floyd was saying Oscar or Mosley. But Arum wanted him to fight Margo. Even at the end Steven A. Smith said he wanted Floyd to fight someone we knew about along with everyone else. But remeber this was when Top Rank and GBP were beefing

    Also why didn't Arum try to make a fight with Margo vs Baldo for the championship, before Floyd got a chance to
     
  5. fatdrunkenslob

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    That's definitely a big part of it. Mayweather didn't get to where he is today by making dumb business decisions on his own. If his team and advisor said tomorrow that he should fight Margarito for Welterweight supremacy I have a hunch Floyd would make the fight if the money is right.
     
  6. Scar

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    That's the interview I have downloaded!!, always forgot the name of the show(even though I LOVE it) but mentioned the interview many times here, couldn't get ahold of it because it's on an internal hard-disk within my old computer and I can't be bothered to turn it on. Arum was insisting that he wanted Floyd to fight Margarito instead of others.

    That's because Margarito was far too loyal to the WBOgus title and he only started to get the major fights when he dropped it as you can notice now, thanks to Williams helping him drop it of course.
     
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    That's the difference between effective management and inept management. If Haymon was Margarito's advisor he would never have let him take that fight against Williams when Cotto and stardom was waiting for him around the corner. That loss really took the wind out of his sails and set him back a year when he could have been making big money fights already.
     
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    Floyd had a plan since he was a pro. I believe he was talking about fighting Hernadez and Gatti after his 5th fight on Friday night fights. Then after Coralles fight he said he wanted Hamed. And of course he said Hoya, Mosley, Zab, Wright, and Spinks(who at the time was the man). I don't think he is a huge draw as far a selling PPV fights without a big name. But his plan was to fight the big names to get him to the top and have names on his resume that people will remember. Not just the junkies like us, but everyone who only watchs big fights. Can't nobody hate on that
     
  9. Scar

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    I think Margarito was cornered there and had to take that fight or drop his WBO title, that's why they probably had to make that fight even though it was known to be too risky. If they dropped the title and went on fighting someone else, all the "ducking" media-talk will switch from Mayweather to him, they had no other choice but to take it especially when Williams was his mandatory.
     
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    So thats Margo fault period. Floyd was a man a stood up for himself 750,000 to leave Top Rank. Then he got over $60 mill to fight Baldo, Hatton, and Hoya. Smart ****ing move. Margo was the dummy :lol: But I really believe that Floyd never loved boxing, but it was forced on him. But we was so good why not do it
     
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    Arum didn't want him to take the fight either :deal
     
  12. Scar

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    Floyd already said it on ESPN before his fight with DLH, the smartest move BOTH him and DLH made was leaving Bob Arum and it was proven right there. Some people claim he paid off Arum to leave him was because Margarito was in his nightmares when in reality a possible fight with DLH NOT happening was in his nightmares, that's a fight he seeked ALL his career if anyone followed him early.

    Yes boxing was indeed forced on him but proved to be a special fighter, though I do believe he loves boxing otherwise he wouldn't have allowed it to be his life. Just my opinion of course.
     
  13. fatdrunkenslob

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    He was a bit cornered because of all the criticism that was being levelled at Floyd at the time but Arum explicitly told him not fight Williams who was a relatively unknown yet large 6'3" southpaw at the time. Arum is a weasel and Margo was never his #1 fighter but even he could see that Williams was a terrible style matchup for him.

    Had Margo checked his ego at the door he could have did wonders for his career by beating Cotto and forcing Mayweather to face him. At the time Cotto was more of a straight forward puncher/stalker and not nearly as polished as he was this year and would have been easy work for Margarito.

    By the way, all that ducking talk in the media didn't seem to have any effect on PBF's ability to land megafights. Maybe Margarito's team should take a page out of Mayweather's book for future reference.
     
  14. Scar

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    Good post, can't disagree with anything there.
     
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