i want everyone to observe the posters who think hops won...

You really think Bernard "did well in one round" in the first fight with Taylor? That's funny, because I happen to remember Jermain getting his ass handed to him from the last minute of the ninth up to the final bell.

But then, I guess some people were thrilled by all the air Jermain had been drilling up to that point.

Calzaghe - Hopkins was a perfectly reasonable decision win for Joe. Jermain's wins were the first in a long line of gifts. Big difference.

 

Reading that reminded why I'm going to miss his crusty, unloved self. Seriously, nice work Ill...

 

After watching the fight again, this time sober, i scored it a draw with Hopkins getting the edge in scoring due to the KD. Really, it's easy to score it for the busier guy if you just watch it once while drunk but if you pay close attention a second time, Calzaghe really did land almost nothing flush. Yeah, he got in some clean shots later in the fight but for the most part, it was Hopkins who consistently landed the cleaner and harder punches from 1-12. I can honestly see why ESPN, Fighthype, and the AP, scored it as i did for Hopkins.

I honestly think that it was another one of those cases where Hopkins might've technically lost based on the way boxing is scored but he outboxed Calzaghe from an overall perspective just as he did against JT.

I don't think Hopkins is lying or faking when he states that he thought he won the fight.

 

The gameplan should be to win the fight, hopkins had no plan b after calzaghe adjusted. He lost the fight, for the people stating he done all the good work putting in an old skool performance fair enough. I bet you Joe could drop his workrate to 5-10 solid punches a round, get on his bike tie nard up all night and fight dirty preventing the other fighter from fighting. But nard couldnt do what joe does.

Everything in this fight went right for hopkins, yet he still lost.
He got a 2 point lead in round 1, slowed the fight down til the 4th yet when joe adjusted nard done the same thing. He couldnt up his game. He kept going with his low output until round 10 when he got a breather and started to come back. Joe kept going after him not letting him rest easy and he tired in the part of the fight where he is usually strong.
Nard starts slow but finishes strong, is what we know.
He got a few points up by round 4, joe had the 2nd half of the fight np's.

Another thing regarding tactics, if your losing and behind on the cards you dont do the same thing round after round. Hopkins did yet people wont criticise him? If its another boxer, then man they are stupid cant do crap. Nard, ooh isnt he crafty doing all this. Its a nard type of fight.
Yes it was for a while and he couldnt captialise.

 

i thought bernard one that first taylor fight and gave away the other two.i remember round 11 of the first taylor fight i thought he was gonna knock him out.the other two fights he just lost on activity although he was the only one doing any damage in the fight.and i think that may be why he didn't press the action more in the later rounds.i mean if you look at nards corner they were telling him he's winning the fight while enzo was screaming h needed the knockout . but still activity level does have influence on judging.so if your getting outlanded 2 or 3 to 1 punch you will probably lose that round even if you are causing more damage unless those few punches are bombs.by the way i chose hops in all three fights beforehand

 

I think this is a pretty damn good wrap up of the fight, and it's why as a Hopkins fan, I'm not bothering with "robbery" diatribes, even though I feel it could have gone either way or been a draw.

However, I don't agree with the "Joe could have tied up repeatedly and won" argument. He didn't do terribly on the inside, but he wasn't effective. The way he throws punches limits his inside game against a guy with Hopkins' ability to create defensive angles. When he wasn't coming forward (which wasn't often, he was only on his heels in the 10th), Bernard had no trouble getting off jabs and straight rights to the body. In the end, Joe made the pefect decision; chase the old man around, tire him out, and get into a punching rhythm. And that was enough to get the job done.

 

I had by 2 for Joe, I have not watched the fight again yet. Undoubtedly Nard is good defensively + counterpunching, i think he had every chance in the fight but your right joe chased and tired him.
I think its very impressive how joe has come through his last two fights against Kessler and Hopkins but because the fight against hopkins was cagey and not action packed people dont rate joe for not taking hopkins apart. Thats crazy.

I am pleased not too many are crying robbery for this fight, I dont think it was.

 

Wrong. I thought Hopkins beat Taylor both times, but lost to Calzaghe clearly.:yep

 

Hopkins lost in my view. But it was close and I can see how it could've gone his way, Hopkins landed the cleaner harder punches.

 

You win rounds by landing punches witch Bhop did very well.

 

amen!!!!!

 

Whenever Hopkins fights I always think he's really one of those project peace advocates....no aggression whatsoever. Defensive wizardry is cool and all, but you have to let them go.