I'd pick Oleksander Usyk to beat Max Schmeling

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by McGrain, Sep 10, 2017.

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Am I crazy?

  1. Yes, you're crazy.

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  2. No, you're not crazy but I don't agree with you

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  3. Usyk wins.

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  1. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Drunkie Full Member

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    The case for Usyk is certainly looking stronger than ever.
     
    BitPlayerVesti, Sep 25, 2021
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  2. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    What's even spookier, is that a few years ago, Usyk was levels above what he is now.
     
    George Crowcroft, Sep 25, 2021
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    Gazelle Punch Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I’m kind of mad I missed his prime years. I was on modern boxing strike…but being back now I’m going to watch some of his old fights. Any time recommend? I want to see the Haye fight personally
     
    Gazelle Punch, Sep 25, 2021
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  4. Devon

    Devon Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Tell me what advantage Schmeiling has over Usyk? Usyk is far bigger, stronger, far better boxer
     
    Devon, Sep 25, 2021
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  5. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Huck, Głowacki, Gassiev.

    They're his three best performances IMO; but Hunter, Briedis and Bellew are important to watch too since they show more of his limitations.
     
    George Crowcroft, Sep 25, 2021
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  6. clinikill

    clinikill Active Member Full Member

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    He fought a long time ago, which is all that is needed to be a H2H monster here on Classic.
     
    clinikill, Sep 25, 2021
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    Gazelle Punch Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Lol I thought Haye fought him (was Belles)guess not but thanks will check them out
     
    Gazelle Punch, Sep 25, 2021
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  8. richdanahuff

    richdanahuff Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Usyks footwork gives any era issues but when he hits the era of big and fast heavyweights his size like Ali, Foreman, Norton, Holmes, Dokes, Holyfield etc.....is when the fights get interesting.
     
    richdanahuff, Sep 25, 2021
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  9. Ken Ashcroft

    Ken Ashcroft Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Well, he will be 35 in a few months time so he is probably already past his prime.
     
    Ken Ashcroft, Sep 25, 2021
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  10. Kamikaze

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    I wouldn’t say levels. But he is past his best. I like that after the AJ fight he said they’re not seeing his best work and that he could have done more, I believe it.

    He was a complete sportsman this bout not chasing Joshua after a slip letting him recover. Playing after the bell but now clowning. A real ambassador for boxing.
     
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    70sFan865 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Schmeling was a stronger puncher and I don't agree that he's far worse boxer.

    The Joshua fight doesn't prove much in this hypothetical. Schmeling was far more experienced fighter and much better boxer than AJ.
     
    70sFan865, Sep 26, 2021
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  12. McGrain

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    Miss this fruitcake.
     
    McGrain, Sep 26, 2021
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  13. George Crowcroft

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    Let's have it right.

    Joshua wouid beat Schmeling as well.
     
    George Crowcroft, Sep 26, 2021
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  14. Quick Cash

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    I'm not so sure. He would have plenty of opportunities to land on Joshua and build momentum.
     
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    Quick Cash, Sep 26, 2021
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  15. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    1. I'm not so sure, Joshua is much bigger but his chin is questionable. Let's assume that Joshua wouldn't run through Max (that's not his style anyway), I'm not so sure if AJ could take accurate rights from Max all fight long.
    2. It doesn't matter, because Joshua brings different obstacles to overcome for Max than Usyk.
     
    70sFan865, Sep 26, 2021
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