I'd pick Oleksander Usyk to beat Max Schmeling

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Am I crazy?

  1. Yes, you're crazy.

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  2. No, you're not crazy but I don't agree with you

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  3. Usyk wins.

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  1. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    So Zurdo entered the ring at 213 1/2 pounds against Bivol?

    Please provide proof of that claim.

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    Louis weighed 198 lbs against Schmeling.
     
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    So you wanted to lock the weight of the Marciano who fought Louis in so you could cherry pick a low weight for Marciano but you want to circumvent Joe's weight against Marciano as it was high? Got it.

    Well when Louis weighed 198 against Schmeling he was in his 25th fight. Zurdo weighed in at 161 in his 25th fight. No doubt he rehydrated 37 pounds but proof just can't be found.
     
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  4. Dubblechin

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    By 36, Joe Louis had scored a dozen wins over Hall of Famers (to Usyk's NONE), made 25 successful title defenses (compared to Usyk's TWO) and had already held the heavyweight title for nearly 12 years, which is longer than Usyk's even been a pro. (12 years ago, Usyk hadn't even won a gold medal yet). And by 37, Louis was scoring his 13th and final win over a Hall of Famer, Jimmy Bivins, before finally calling it quits against another Hall of Famer, Marciano.

    Take your "Usyk is better than Joe Louis" nonsense to TikTok or some other 'tween' site.

    Usyk has more in common with "Fainting" Phil Scott at this point than Joe Louis.
     
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  5. Dubblechin

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    Usyk went down from a body shot by Beterbiev ... and, of course, claimed it was a foul, because Usyk's testicles apparently grow out of his side.:hang

    Marciano never lost to someone with a "glass belly."

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  6. CleneloAnavarez

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    Rocco Marcegiano was put down by ancient Moore.

    Usyk beat Beterbiev, that is the truth and you can see it for yourself.

    Marcegiano would be slaughtered by Beterbiev so your argument fails (again).
     
  7. Dubblechin

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    You may not have picked this up on TikTok, but Moore had more knockouts than anyone in history. And Beterbiev got floored by Callum Johnson, who DOESN'T.

    You're out of your league. And so would Usyk against Louis and Beterbiev against Marciano.
     
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    False
    Louis would ***** out of fighting a bigger, quicker and better southpaw.

    Beterbiev would smash Marcegiano's skull in the first time Rocco lunges.
     
  9. Cojimar 1946

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    I'd pick the cruiserweights of Usyks era over the heavyweights of Louis era. Many of them were the size of today's light heavyweights.

    Phil Scott never won anything, Usyk is a two division champion
     
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    Guys like Joshua Breidis Huck will probably get in the hall of fame eventually regardless of whether or not they deserve it.

    Riddick Bowe made the HOF so they probably will too.

    I don't know how we got to Louis vs Usyk but he has already shown he can beat Schmeling in my view
     
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  11. janitor

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    Usky is as clever as any man his size I have ever seen.

    Whatever happens in his next few fights, he more than passes the eye test.
     
  12. McGrain

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    Time to bid farewell to this pretty now - Joe Louis is the appropriate opponent for Usyk, not Max Schmeling, who would get stopped. It's been a long road - from Schmeling leading the poll to Usyk crushing it. Вітаємо Олександра Усика, лідера світового рейтингу фунтів за фунти.
     
  13. Melankomas

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    I’d still like to see it since I think it would be competitive, but I think Usyk wins decisively though.
     
  14. Dynamicpuncher

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    I don't even think Louis beats Usyk didn't Louis get schooled by a Southpaw in sparring and then stated he would never fight one ?

    Usyk too big too mobile too skillful Usyk would win a decision over Louis IMO.
     
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    Would be really damn good. Don't know if Louis can keep up with Usyk or if Usyk can survive Louis. What's your call on that ?