If AJ gets another shot at Usyk...what could he do differently?

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  1. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Yeah, his cheerleaders, especially his rather annoying army of fans on social media, conveniently ignore the fact that he either always fights on a deck heavily stacked in his favour, or a handful of times on neutral soil, and the only time he pulled an Usyk and fought in his opponent's backyard he got bounced up and down off the canvas like a yo-yo and stopped by an obese Mexican Oliver Hardly lookalike

    And only he gets the opportunity to avenge his losses and never his beaten opponents. As said, he gets to roll the dice as many times as he wants until they achieve the desired result and then as soon as the result has been achieved the score is settled, the rivalry is over, AJ is back, AJ is the greatest, and onto the next opponent.

    The fact that J-Park has never been offered a rematch, even after he sprung the upset over one of AJ's biggest rivals who AJ was set to face next had they got past J-Park is so typical of ReMatchroom and how they're guiding his career. As you say, J-Park was not only fighting AJ in his backyard he was also fighting the ref who wouldn't allow him to fight at the range he needed to be at with his six inch shorter reach. He could've rematched J-Park instead of facing Ngannou but E-Hearn had no interest in it because, duh, AJ already beat him. You mean like Usyk already whooped AJ twice, Eduardo? No you don't because Usyk beat AJ o a deck heavily stacked against him. Why hasn't J-Park been given two rematches against AJ if AJ deserves two against Usyk?
     
  2. northpaw

    northpaw Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    There is no reason for Joshua to ever fight Usyk again, this is silly.

    Nothing that he will ever do the rest of his career would warrant a third fight, that book is closed....................
     
  3. MorvidusStyle

    MorvidusStyle Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He could go for the KO and get KO'd himself.

    He had the massive support team, the judge advantage, youth, size, power, height, reach ...

    Yet he lost twice to a cruiserweight.

    He is so wildly inferior to Usyk in every genuine way, including as a man, it's amazing.
     
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  4. Vegan Beast

    Vegan Beast Grandpappy Ortiz Full Member

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    Usyk at 38/39 would have the age excuse, but Fury is past his prime purely because he abused his body.

    Joshua is still in his physical prime because he remained active and stayed in shape, where as Fury ate pies and drank beer.
     
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  5. CroBox29

    CroBox29 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    What he lacked in the first two fights with Usyk, which is aggressiveness, I would still favor Usyk in the third fight, but Joshua's chances would certainly be good.
     
  6. Reg

    Reg Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The navel was apparent when the fight started which is why the ref did not deem blows on the belt as legal. The fact that Dubois had higher trunks than Usyk and the ref still didn't feel the need to designate blows on the belt as legal should tell you alll you need to know.

    For that shot to be legal the ref had to make a comment before the fight started. He didnt.
     
  7. Boxing2019

    Boxing2019 If you want peace, prepare war. banned Full Member

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    Impossible. Usyk has Joshuas number.
     
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  8. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    To be fair people were saying the same thing about Ruiz 2.
    AJ doesn't need to do much more. He gained a lot of experience and knowledge during the 24 rounds with Usyk. He also had 4 more fights after Usyk, which is also big experience. AJ doesn't have 350 amateur fights like Usyk, but he improve constantly. With a better gameplan, and Usyk age anything is possible. AJ also has the tools, so you never know how the fight could plays out.
    Rematches could end up very, very differently, even if there is difference in the skill levels.

    Still that page is closed for AJ, and Usyk won't fight him again, in that i'm certain.

    AJ - Fury is the fight to made. When Fury lost to Usyk, AJ should chase Fury, and we could enjoy the ducking of Fury, and all the mental gymnastics he and uncle Frank would pull to duck the fight and blame it on AJ.
     
  9. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think AJ is improving and maybe he could actually win if they meet next year, but that would probably mostly be down to Usyk ageing in that case.

    Can't really see AJ beating Usyk at his best as it is now. Joshua would have to show both a level of aggression and ring iq which he hasn't quite reached yet.
     
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  10. NickyMetropolis

    NickyMetropolis New Member Full Member

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    Definitely go to the body. Be the boss as Teddy Atlas says, be confident in the fact that he is one of the hardest punchers in the world. What else can be done? Two fights and the same result. It's all easy to say and hard to do.
     
  11. Supahero

    Supahero New Member Full Member

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    Didn't read your message, only looked the picture. I don't see any navel.

    As expected, you wasted my time.

    I recommend this video on Youtube, for anyone seeking the truth : "The Most Legendary Body Shots In Boxing". Same reaction than Usyk, not to mention that in many of the examples they hit exactly the same area than Dubois. Dubois beat Usyk by KO, but he pretended it was a low blow.
     
  12. like a boss

    like a boss Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Usyk has Joshua's measure and anything Joshua tries will soon be nullified by Usyk.

    After the Ngannou fight, Eddie Hearn said "Tyson Fury please, please beat Usyk.'

    They do not want to have to fight Usyk again and are hoping Fury does the dirty work for them.
     
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  13. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    If you didn't see Usyk navel, when it was even pointed with an yellow arrow, then you need to visit an eye doctor. I'm done with you.
    You are just delusional and don't want to admit when someone proves you wrong. And not just proves you wrong with arguments, but FACTS as well, as this pictures are pure facts. There is other people told you too, and you still decide to be delusional. Be then i don't mind. This just shows people that discussion with you are useless.

    Eye doctor buddy:
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  14. piprules

    piprules Active Member Full Member

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    Serge, I’m a Parker fan but aj beat him fair and square the first time. Maybe it would be different now as Parker has definitely improved.
     
  15. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Just rewatched Joshua-Whyte. Had forgotten how extremely aggressive Joshua was. That's the kind of balls to the walls attitude he needs to regain if he's to face Usyk again.

    His current more calculated style is better suited for the bigger punchers, but against someone as fast and skillfull as Usyk he needs that aggression. He was probably fully aware of that going into the second fight, but couldn't turn it on for some reason. He probably won't for a third meet either, but there's where his chance lie.