IF ALI HAD FACED BOWE IN THE JUNGLE?

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  1. Jel

    Jel Obsessive list maker Full Member

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    On the positive side for Bowe, he might want to eat less because of the heat.
     
  2. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    Oh sure.. But it comes down to the wire in a classic. Up there with Ali v Frazier!!
     
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  3. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    The Foreman loss to Ali in 1974 had little to do with stamina.

    Had Big George had better stamina, he was headed for a UD loss instead of a KO.

    Ali was ahead on points at every stage of the fight, almost from the opening bell.

    Ali over Bowe by UD.
     
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  4. juppity

    juppity Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Bowe who won title off Holyfield was well conditioned and had superb
    boxing and infighting skills. This was not the vintage Ali and if Eddie
    Futch could work out a way for Joe Frazier to defeat Ali then so could
    Eddie with Bowe.
    A disciplined Bowe follows Futch game plan to the tee and wins on pts.
     
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  5. JackSilver

    JackSilver Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Futch was a good trainer but is also one of the most overrated. He was convinced that his fighter, Spinks was going to beat Tyson too.
     
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  6. Combatesdeboxeo_

    Combatesdeboxeo_ Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    It's an exaggeration and it's not true at all
     
  7. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

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    Futch and Joe Louis used to spar together as amateurs. Futch was a lightweight and Louis was a light heavyweight. Futch said he used lots and lots of movement during their sparring sessions
     
  8. JackSilver

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    He would say that. Most old timers like to exaggerate their stories to make themselves seem more important than they really was. I've no doubt that he had his picture taken with Louis while they were in the same gym but Louis sparring with a puny amateur lightweight? Lol.

    You hear Louis ever say that he used to spar with Futch? If it did happen the only 'lots and lots of movement' that Futch would have used was to run the hell out of the ring before the powerful Louis knocked him into a coma the first time he hit him.
     
  9. JohnThomas1

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    The sparring sessions between Louis and Futch have been verified in at least 2 Joe Louis books.
     
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  10. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    At which point in the fight was Ali trailing ?
     
  11. Combatesdeboxeo_

    Combatesdeboxeo_ Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Part of the Ali tactic was stay on the ropes static to tire george and foreman did not fail everything,a lot of blows did hit ali and it made a lot of damage and scored points. You are taking like if it was a walk in the park for Ali and he won every round... At the end of the round 1 Ali had the eyes of trevor berbick against tyson. ... Early in the fight when he tested the strength of george and his power He was everything except confident to win. Ali was a master but he had a very hard time beating Foreman it is why he never ever did talk about a rematch with foreman
     
  12. JohnThomas1

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    i completely disagree with this. Ali had a great first round and couldn't miss with his right hand hammering George numerous times with it. He got in early and let George know he wouldn't be cowering. He hopped off his stool early between rounds and wound up the crowd. Ali was seldom lacking self confidence to say the least.
     
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  13. JackSilver

    JackSilver Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Which ones? I wanna see for myself, to see if they were as serious or as competitive as Futch who never turned pro, always tried to make out they were or if they were just fooling around with Joe not taking it seriously at all?

    It’s like today Joshua or maybe more realistically, Haye having serious sparring sessions with Amir Khan.
     
  14. Combatesdeboxeo_

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    Documentary when we were kings.
    "At the end of the first round ali had a look that i never will forget in my life, for first time i saw fear in the ali eyes"

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    2:18
     
  15. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    I still disagree. i'm trusting my own eyes and what i saw transpire.