If Cotto had more Stamina, he would have won.

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  1. Morrissey

    Morrissey Underrated Full Member

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    I never thought Cotto had a stamina issue before this fight.

    I did not see any sign in his previous fights with Mosley, who he outlasted for 12 rounds, against Judah whom he terrorized and wore down before making him quit, and against Quintana.

    He was just stalked and bullied for 10 rounds, and when he can no longer deal with the intense unbelievable pressure and punishment, he quit. That's it basically.
     
  2. MexChamps

    MexChamps Active Member Full Member

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    If my aunt had balls shed be my uncle
    I think Cotot fought his best fight ever we all knew he would run out of gas like he did vs every other fighter but I know Cotto fans never took heed of what Marg suporters said " What is Cotto gonna due when he runs out f gas and Magrarito is on top of him"
    It shouldnt be a shock to Cotto fans because many Margarito fans has stated that before the fight I think Cotto fans are delusional not taking anything away from the warriro Cotto but his fans were warned and now acr suprised
     
  3. paulfv

    paulfv Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Just have to tell you that "Strangeways, Here We Come" is one of my all-time favorite albums.

    I used to walk home from doing midnight workouts in California listening to "Girlfriend in a Coma," "A Rush and a Push...," etc.

    Good stuff, Morrissey!

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  4. drvooh

    drvooh Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If Wlad had more stamina, he would have beaten Brewster the first time as well, and he would have beaten Purity...his sole loss would have been to Saunders ( spelling? )
     
  5. splatter69

    splatter69 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    BINGO

    Seeing the 1st 7 as a total wash for Cotto is off the mark. He may have won the majority with some clean counters but Margo was still taxing that body and wearing on him.
     
  6. Samurai

    Samurai I lost an avatar bet Full Member

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    I thought he used his legs a bit too much
     
  7. Morrissey

    Morrissey Underrated Full Member

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    Glad to hear you loved it as well. Atleast I am not alone in preferring it over TQID.:D

    Obviously, I like all the tracks there. Especially the mesmerizing The Death Of A Disco Dancer.:good

    He has a new LP, coming this September. That is if you are into Moz' solo stuff.
     
  8. djrock247

    djrock247 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    This one's for you and Morrissey.

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  9. sonny73

    sonny73 Active Member Full Member

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    No that was before the 11th.

    96-94 to Marg after 10 rds.
     
  10. Brickhaus

    Brickhaus Packs the house Full Member

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    Cotto's stamina was fine. Margarito battered him to the body in the early rounds, and he lost some of his lateral quickness. Once he stopped being able to avoid the head shots, it became a matter of time.
     
  11. nuevoleon72

    nuevoleon72 New Member Full Member

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    If, if, if...Cotto had plenty of it...he seemed in superb condition. It was Margarito who drained it all out of him. Stamina will not make you avoid getting punished from all angles like Antonio did Cotto. Give props where they're due!! Margarito is the man at 147 lbs.
     
  12. raiderjay

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    Once again fans of a losing fighter don't want to give credit where it is due. It wasn't what Cotto didn't do because of stamina, bad gameplan, etc. He didn't stand and fight more, he didn't go to the body more, because Margarito did not allow it.

    A lot of boxing fans don't give credit to the types of fighter that Margarito is. As stupid ass Kellerman said "will overcame skill". Well guess what slapnuts, Being able to apply EFFECTIVE AGGRESION, cutting off the ring, working on the inside without getting tied up by your opponent, jabbing your way in, going to the body and to the head with equal effect, throwing 100 punches per round and not wasting any of them ARE ALL SKILLS!!!!!!!!!

    If it were just pure stamina and will that won fights, then we would see more fighters emulating Margarito. The thing is that all of the skills that Margarito has are probably less seen than guys like Cotto (hand and foot speed, decent power, slipping ability). How many times do you hear announcers and trainers telling a pressure fighter to cut off the ring better? All the time! That's because it is one of the most difficult skills to master in the ring. How about people start REALLY giving credit where it is due.

    Margarito was winning BEFORE the 11th round on two judges scorecards because a decent professional boxing judge recognizes EFFECTIVE AGGRESION!
     
  13. Morrissey

    Morrissey Underrated Full Member

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    :lol:

    Nice list eh?

    Check out Simpson's Saint Morrissey book if you are into reading about your favorite artists.

    Not that much of an informative pseudo-bio for people who already know him, but it is seriously funny as hell.

    Well, for a Smiths fan, that is.:yep
     
  14. RingKing

    RingKing Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Pathetic. Margarito did not win this fight based on stamina alone. For you to denigrate his win like this is truly classless. He fought his heart and soul out to beat a guy who was undefeated, and this is all you can come up with? This is why I enjoy Margarito's win more. Because idiots like you can't and won't give credit to a man who beat the **** out of a man even though he had lesser skills. Enjoy the taste of defeat arsehole. Mexico triumphs AGAIN!!!!
     
  15. RingKing

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    Pathetic. Margarito did not win this fight based on stamina alone. For you to denigrate his win like this is truly classless. He fought his heart and soul out to beat a guy who was undefeated, and this is all you can come up with? This is why I enjoy Margarito's win more. Because idiots like you can't and won't give credit to a man who beat the **** out of a man even though he had lesser skills. Enjoy the taste of defeat arsehole. Mexico triumphs AGAIN!!!!