IF IRON MIKE WAS UP AND COMING NOW,WHAT WOULD YOUR THOUGHTS BE?

Honestly, I'd be a skeptic if he could become the #1 guy. Mike was very short, with limited reach and the bigger opponents would not be as intimidated by him. I would need to see a lot more than just beating Marvis Frazier.

I would not doubt his power or speed though, you can see that regardless of opposition in most cases.

I'm nearly sold on Joshua, but Wilder and Parker not so much. The next wave or pro's on the way up to me show more promise than Wilder did at a similar stage.

And there's a guy named Hrgovic who is set to go pro. Best combination of skills, durability and power I have seen in a long time. He was made for the professional game.

 

AJ is not going to take control of the fight against Tyson at any stage, Tyson in his prime could throw all sorts of combinations throughout the fight without gassing which is not the same. Tyson whiskers are also not under question at all, i fully back him to take AJ's best punches but cannot say the same for AJ.

 

People need to remember the timeframe that tyson achieved his goal. It took him about a year. He was out fighting almost every two weeks from his debut sometimes even every week. Against some pretty decent fighters. Fought quick tillis then something like 17 days later fought mitch green at the age of 19. He was pretty much the worst kept secret in boxing. They all knew barring a major shock he was going to the very top.

I think joshua had about 6 fights in the timeframe tyson had 26. He didnt really need a rest because it was becoming increasingly clear he was going to blow the competition away. In comparison to tyson most of these guys are doing boxing as a hobby. He was training as a professional from about 14 years old. Joshua had never walked into a boxing gym till much much later. Look back on some of these so called bums tyson beat watch som3 of their fights. They we,re actually skilled operators that didnt have the types of weaknesses guys have nowadays.

They hardly even spar nowadays. All about fitness. With a bit sparring threw in. Tyson etc sparred almost everyday in life. They learned how to fight by fighting. Different nowadays but tyson would have demolished joshua. Hand speed too fast. The power was pretty much devastating. Even his punches sounded different.

 

All I see is wild assumptions in this post, have you got anything to back your statements up?

 

Mate i m sure i ve actually see some of your posts your pretty much a troll. Just a giant waste of time discussing things with you.

 

Typical reply from an idiot who has no answers.......

 

Not really true just find talking with you a waste of time tbh. Your whole thing is to go against the grain. Getting people to put answers up you ve no real interest in anyway.

Anyone that didnt know tyson was going to the top in 1986...or at least barring a major shock either doesnt know anything about boxing or didnt watch it wasnt in the know at the time. I m british. We we,re late to the party...but americans were well aware of tyson long before 86. Or the guys around boxing knew anyway.

 

Boxing doesn't work like that.
Even the hottest prospects have to prove themselves in the ring.
People can say "I knew" all they want. They didn't know.
Fighters have to work their way up, prove themselves. Until they actually beat a world class top fighter convincingly it's all talk and conjecture. They face tests which they pass or fail.
Tyson passed all his tests but reasonable doubts remained all the way to Berbick fight.
Tyson had a lot to prove in that fight and deserves praise for getting the job done so emphatically.
Just because a fighter is "tipped" or "favoured" doesn't make it a foregone conclusion or a known fact.

 

I bet Tyson was a hot favourite to wipe Tillis out but he scraped by with a razor thin decision, if the fight was 12 rounds he was going to lose. Nothing is set in stone in a boxing match, Douglas proved that a few years later.

 

Nothing is set in stone in a boxing match yet in the same paragraph you state if the Tillis bout was 12 rounds Tyson was going to lose

You're hatred for Tyson knows no bounds.

 

There wasnt any reasonable doubt. It was a case of barring a major shock he was going to the top. The reason i know that is by looking at his schedule. No one they werent pretty sure about would be fighting james tillis at 19 at that stage of his development then 17 days later fighting mitch green. 17 days later...thats pretty incredible two guys of that calibre at 19. They had him fighting fortnightly sometimes even weekly. You dont do that with a work in progress. Tyson pretty much turned up ready from the get go. They knew it was just a matter of ticking boxes.

Obviously a lot of what you ve said isnt exactly untrue but its stating the obvious. Any educated person and even the uneducated should have known exactly where he was going...barring a big shock. Thats not reasonable doubt. He was pretty much the worst kept secret in boxing. His name was known from the amatuers...more so because he was destroying people back there as well.

 

It's called probability pal......

 

Tyson Fury was a pretty big name at a very young age.

 

Agree fergy. Especially with the i dont think we ve seen the same since. We haven,t...we,ve seen talented fighters since but no one at that age that could run through a division like that. The chances are it wont happen again either. Maybe someone could win a belt younger but to pretty much decimate a division the way he did...i cant see it being repeated. Was a very special set of circumstances that led him there. An old man with an obsession who was a bit of a maverick...not only that but for me a bit of a boxing genius also with a set up like they had where kids actually lived with him.

A kid that had nothing in life that was also a bit of a freak of nature...looking back at pictures of him at 13/14 anyway. Who also had an obsessive personality. Looking at it you,d struggle to find two hungrier guys than cus and tyson a hunger that was developed by circumstances. They probably wouldn,t let kids be treated like tyson was nowadays anyway. The added benefit for cus was tyson didnt really seem to have parents that had much of a concern anyway and the authorities seemed to trust cus to get on with it.

It was like everything fell into place perfectly.