If it was an american with Joes record ??

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  1. VARG

    VARG Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    the first ****in thing we agree on so far! :good
     
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  2. Cobbler

    Cobbler Shoemaker To The Stars Full Member

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    Sorry, but that's utter bollocks. Hopkins isn't top five P4P because of things he did 15 years ago, he is because he is still performing at that level now. Calzaghe's last fight was against someone who, by your own definition, was the best opponent he could feasibly face right now.

    And your insinuation that Hopkins no longer has the hunger to 'fight hard' is, frankly, an insult to him.

    And then Calzaghe already fought a young, hungry fighter with talent to put himself up there in P4P terms in Kessler.

    Some people will just never be satisfied though.
     
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  3. jc

    jc Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Huh? You'd have to be a ****** to pick Gatti over Floyd.
     
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  4. Calzaghe #1

    Calzaghe #1 Active Member Full Member

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    Not only would calzaghe have beaten toney, benn would have too.
    If tonys hands were as fast and big as his mouth he would be reigning his division right now.
     
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  5. jc

    jc Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think you should go find a source, I dont think any boxing writer worh his salt would picka past it contender like Gatto over a pure boxer like Mayweather...
     
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  6. Calzaghe #1

    Calzaghe #1 Active Member Full Member

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    I dont think there are many on the planet that would say it wasnt a farce
    Would you also agree that Mayweather got all the help he neede from joe cortezs against hatton, stopping hatton working inside and roughing up mayweather??

    Surely we dont agree on this as well do we??
     
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  7. Calzaghe #1

    Calzaghe #1 Active Member Full Member

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    Let me tell you, when I heared that Mayweather was fighting Gatti I thought it was sad that
    1 Gatti was willing to beome a lamb to the slaughter for a good pay day, he is better than that.
    2 Mayweather had the nerve to give it the whole showman thing at the end after basically beating up a well well past it fighter.

    I never once thought it would be anything other than a Mayweather win.
     
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  8. Stinky gloves

    Stinky gloves Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Let me guess, Valero and Oganov are Americans ... right?
     
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  9. VARG

    VARG Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :yikes :yikes :patsch :patsch

    here you go...im too lazy to type this ****

    http://www.eastsideboxing.com/news.php?p=10062&more=1
     
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  10. Calzaghe #1

    Calzaghe #1 Active Member Full Member

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    If you dont think Mayweather Gatti was a mismatch of massive proportions then its you going crazy.
     
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  11. Cobbler

    Cobbler Shoemaker To The Stars Full Member

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    Mundine, Beyer and Andrade were all ranked in the top five of the Ring's rankings at SMW when Kessler demolished them.

    That's at least equal to Dawson's current achievements.

    I would argue better, given the context and dominant nature of the wins.
     
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  12. Calzaghe #1

    Calzaghe #1 Active Member Full Member

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    :rofl
     
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  13. VARG

    VARG Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    actually i do...and how Joe ignored the fact that mayweather used his arm in Hatton's face to keep him off a clinch...yea id agree

    but i also think Hatton's demise came mostly from Hatton charging himself into Mayweather's fist and the weight and size advantage...as well as a shitty trainer...now he's training with Mayweather Sr. :lol: :think
     
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  14. Calzaghe #1

    Calzaghe #1 Active Member Full Member

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    So would you say cortez can lets be say tipped substantialy:shock:
     
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  15. Calzaghe #1

    Calzaghe #1 Active Member Full Member

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    I cant wait for kessler to start fighting these so called next big things, then perhaps will people see just how good this guy can be
     
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