If JUNIOR Knocks OUT Martinez, is he P4P #3????

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  1. lester proctor

    lester proctor Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Why not? If Sergio can't contend with full fledged middles, he should move down. Serg had a single top 10 p4p win, a smaller guy as well (hence the catchweight). Half the top 10 have 0-1 p4p wins.
     
    lester proctor, Aug 22, 2012
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  2. lester proctor

    lester proctor Boxing Addict Full Member

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    How about Wach, where is he p4p if he upsets Wlad?
     
    lester proctor, Aug 22, 2012
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  3. brnxhands

    brnxhands Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    if he beat Sergio and beat the winner of Dawson/ward he would be number 2 in my list. IMO
     
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  4. mikem1

    mikem1 New Member Full Member

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    Of course not ******.
     
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  5. lester proctor

    lester proctor Boxing Addict Full Member

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    How many of the top tenners have more than 1 top 10 (even 20) win? Not Sergio, Ward, Wlad. There's a few with 0. Unless you mean top divisional comp?
     
    lester proctor, Aug 22, 2012
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  6. Nopporn

    Nopporn Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No, it doesn't work that way. Like golf and tennis and any other sports, you have to keep winning to get more points to be counted then you will be ranked higher and higher until you reach to the top. Winning only one big tournament and then gone can't help you to become #1

    Is my explaination clear?
     
    Nopporn, Aug 22, 2012
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  7. lester proctor

    lester proctor Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Fair enough. IMO resume wise he's already top 3 at his weight, not sure about h2h. Sergio didn't have much depth either when he got rated top 5. But agree, he'd need one more good win for contention. Win or lose vs Sergio, I can see a vacant belt fight for Chavez vs Pavlik at 168, not sure that would do it.

    It's just that in p4p talk, a single "elite" win is usually worth many solid defenses, which are usually classified as "bums" in the big picture. For example Clottey, Macklin, Abraham, any recent Donaire opponent, all of Wlad's opponents...
     
    lester proctor, Aug 22, 2012
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  8. brnxhands

    brnxhands Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He would crack the top ten. I have martinez number 3. That would be a bigger win than Manny has had in years, bigger win than Nonito has ever had. **** that i'll fit him in my top 10 somewhere
     
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  9. brnxhands

    brnxhands Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Junior gets no love because hes junior. I can see why people would hate on him 5 years ago, but hes grown out of that son of the ledgend role and into a legit threat. Hes his own man now. Give him his due if he beats Sergio
     
    brnxhands, Aug 22, 2012
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  10. Bane

    Bane Let the games begin Full Member

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    No, Martinez isn't the p4p #3.
     
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  11. StiffJab

    StiffJab Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Tend to agree. Followed closely by GGG if he gets past Proska
     
    StiffJab, Aug 22, 2012
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  12. Royal-T-Bag

    Royal-T-Bag Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    nope but another solid win after that and he's top 10.
     
    Royal-T-Bag, Aug 22, 2012
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  13. lllegion

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    So if Wlad beats Mayweather, he's the best P4P?
     
    lllegion, Aug 23, 2012
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  14. Bane

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    Chavez isn't a full fledged middleweight.
     
    Bane, Aug 23, 2012
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  15. KasperLoks13

    KasperLoks13 Guest

    im a die hard Chavez fan, but this win alone cannot put him at #3 instantly. little homie gotta pay his dues like the rest of the top 5 fighters. and one win over this overrated Sergio Puta isnt going to cut it. he's young and got his whole career ahead of him afterall.
     
    KasperLoks13, Aug 23, 2012
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