Get it done Bummy! Great analysis! What years did you come up in the BX? Name like Bummy...I would have had you as a BKLYN guy. Sounds like you were there in 40-60s, 70? I am a student of NYC. What was it like during those year for boxing and just the block. I am reading a book on the Bronx called "Bronx Accent". ever see Jake Lamotta...assuming you spent time in the Morris Park Authur Ave area.
While Rocky fought in a relatively weak era, the best men he beat were still very good & near peak. Walcott only likely tired late, but was fighting great. I would like to hear a substantive reply to the fouling claim. Did illegal punches hurt the capacity of LaStarza? Rocky seemed to have no ill intent, but explained something like he was unaware of it in the heat of battle. By all indications (before I read some differing opinions in this thread [url]http://www.boxingforum24.com/showthread.php?t=234269[/url] Rocky should have lost to Ted Lowry. The one thing I read repeatedly previously is that Lowry was mob connected & warned repeatedly for passivity, but still should have won. SHOULD Lowry have gotten the decision against a pre-peak Marciano? Can we have any good indication of it? Had Lowry lost SO MANY of his recent fights before Rocky due to fixes?
This isn't a Klitschko thread, and we know what you are going to say. If you watched this fight you will see what I wrote is correct. Lastarza was in the lead before two hard fouls, one of which cost Rocky a point. These are facts. No more time will I waste with you. Focus on the Wlad vs Plulev threads, we can use a laugh.
I was born in BED STY-Brooklyn, and later moved to the NYC and had a summer house in L.I. my uncles on my mothers side were from the Bronx. I did meet Jake a few times he was a hard guy but good heart and a joker. I know the Arthur ave restaurants and bakery's and stores, some good stuff. I was friend with some of the ex-fighters from Brownsville- East NY and a lot of the old Jewish guys that were fighters and they told many stories about the area that had changed by the time I was able to see for myself.I heard a lot about Bummy, his brother got 40 years for a triple homicide and his other brother controlled a union teamsters. The story I like about Bummy was the 1st Zivic fight when Fritzie was lacing and thumbing and Bummy fouled him low losing on DQ later he died trying to help a friend in a bar that was getting held up. Each borough in the city has its own history deep and rich By the way I'm still a Yankee fan
Most of Rocks opponents were in the lead before he beat them. What minute and of what round were these fouls? You're trying to claim Rock could not of won without comitting two fouls. And his relentless assualt had nothing at all to do with it. You're a joke son. A joke.
He already lost to the journeyman bum Lowry. Same people who say Wlad Klitschko sucks will put Marciano in their top 5. Wlad is better than the Brockton bum basher and should be rated much higher H2H and alltime. Marciano is the most overrated heavyweight boxer besides Tyson.
They knew about Vingo, I guess from the amateurs and early fights and they said he was a banger even though Vingo's record was not heavy on KO's at that stage and 4-6 rders. They said Vingo was a good banger, I heard that from them many times
I've seen the second Rock-Roland fight. Rock did nail him with an unintentional nut shot, but...I don't think that would have affected the outcome. I've seen several clips of LaStarza, slick boxer-puncher, a little on the small side but a tough out in any era. What was the judge's name that gave Roland the decision in the first scrap? I'd read where Rock said he wanted to get that guy in an elavator and smoosh him. I've used that guy as a trivia question over the years. "Who's the only judge to have Rock's lifetime record as 48-1?"